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"I've never understood why China insists on owning Tibet. After all, it isn't as if it will ever be a cash cow."

Maybe because of the Quinghai province that is the origin of the Yangzi Jiang, the Huang He and the Lancang Jiang, know usually as the "Three rivers" !

It's all about water as elsewhere!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 07:16:27 AM EST
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Ah, didn't know that. Thank you.

Mind you, it's ironic that China's contribution to global warming is melting the very glaciers that feed the rivers, rendering the ownership futile.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 07:25:04 AM EST
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Except that Quinghai province has been part of China since 1928 and the Tibet that was taken over in the 1950's and is now the Tibet Autonomous Region is an endorheic basin.

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 07:37:23 AM EST
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Tibet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The difference in definition is a major source of dispute. The distribution of Amdo and eastern Kham into surrounding provinces was initiated by the Yongzheng Emperor during the 18th century and has been continuously maintained by successive Chinese governments. Tibetan exiles, in turn, consider the maintenance of this arrangement from the 18th century as part of a divide-and-rule policy.[citation needed]


It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 07:38:45 AM EST
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Not so sure it's an endorheic basin, as it also generate the Brahmapoutre river...!
Taklamakan's desert and south of Mongolia are endorheic but not south Tibet, nor the Tibetan plateau as a whole.

But then I'm no expert on hydrology of that scale :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 07:54:17 AM EST
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It appears that is correct. The point I'm making is that China and Tibet have been  disputing the Eastern provinces of Tibet at least since the 18th century and that China asserted control of the sources of the Three Rivers already in the first third of the 20th century.

It can't help that the province of Amdo is where the Dalai Lama comes from...

Amdo was and is the home of many important Tibetan Buddhist monk scholars or lamas who had a major influence on both politics and religious development of Tibet including the 14th Dalai Lama, the 10th Panchen Lama, and the great reformer Je Tsongkhapa. It was traditionally a place of great learning and scholarship and contains many great monasteries including Kumbum Jampa Ling (Chin. Ta'er Si) near Xining, Qutan Si and Labrang Tashi Khyil south of Lanzhou.
It also can't help that the Dalai Lama was installed by a Chinese emperor in the first place... From Wikipedia's Tibet article:
In 1751, the Manchurian (Qing) government, which ruled China between from 1644 to 1912, established the Dalai Lama as both the spiritual leader and political leader of Tibet who lead a government (Kashag) with four Kalöns in it.[3] Between the 17th century and 1959, the Dalai Lama and his regents were the predominant political power administering religious and administrative authority[2] over large parts of Tibet from the traditional capital Lhasa.


It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 08:16:42 AM EST
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China and Tibet have been at it since the 7th century, at least. Back then, the prize was the silk road.  The battle used to be a bit more even, though.
by Zwackus on Sun Mar 16th, 2008 at 07:05:28 PM EST
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