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Maybe this is not the appropriate post to ask this, but I do not understand why is everybody speaks of "massive guarantees" or even bail-out. We are talking about 30 billions, which is a lot of money for us but nothing compared with the sums they have already poured in the market or with the potential liabilities of Bear Sterns. And more, this is money loaned to JP Morgan not to Sterns so, unless I am missing something, they will lose this money only if JP Morgan too goes under.

It seems to me that this looks more like a semi-nationalization.

by Deni on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:10:58 PM EST
the loan to JPM is non-recourse, collateralized solely by the net asset value of BSC. So that would essentially be a "garantie de passif" in french law, dunno the equivalent name in english, provided by the tax payer. And we don't know the exact cap on the garantee, the quoted 30 B$ is only a minimum.

So there is absolutely no doubt this is a bailout.

Pierre

by Pierre on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:15:00 PM EST
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The Fed is guaranteeing TO JPMorgan that it will not lose money from BSC's liabilities - ie the Fed directly takes the risk of all the skeletons that can be found in BSC's books, instead of JPMorgan.

The liquidity injections of the recent past, while they are subsidies of sort, are at least loans to banks that are still, in principle, able to pay them back, and would wipe our these banks' shareholders if claimed.

JPMorgan shareholders are taking little risk in this case. The Fed should have gotten some shares in JPMorgan to back that guarantee.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:18:30 PM EST
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We should have gotten billions of $ worth of shares before we did this-if anybody gave a damn about anything other than bailing out the wealthy.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 04:48:22 PM EST
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