I was chatting to my friend about this - I can't pick out different harmonies in music, I seem to merge it all together and only hear the overall 'tune'. I assumed everyone did but my friend says he can pick out the separate harmonies and how they work together and he can't imagine how it sounds to merge them together to only one thing.
To me, some frequencies I pick up better than others, so if there are harmonies like a choir, with people singing together, one harmony will over-ride the other to my ear and then just sounds stupidly out of tune.
So where does music - as in a pure note or a coherent assembly of notes working together, then become noise or a mess of stuff that doesn't sound right - or is that down to personal taste in music? Ad astra per aspera
The order goes:
rhythm rough outline - this is the 'It's a nice noise' level of listening being able to pick out lines being able to hear all of the lines at once distinctly and/or hear the chords as chords if they're not playing individual lines (depending on what's in the music) being able to understand the complete structure built by the different lines
People with the last skill are incredibly rare, because they have a combination of listening, memory and intuition which doesn't happen often. Mozart notoriously was supposed to be able to do this, writing out an entire piece from memory - probably not by remembering all of the notes, but by remembering enough detail and knowing enough about music to know how the elements would be put together.
Most people seem to live in the first two areas. They can maybe pick out a line if asked to, or maybe not. Trained musicians should be able to, but people without training probably wouldn't.
There are also two different kinds of pitch hearing - perfect pitch, and relative pitch. They don't work in anything like the same way. People with perfect pitch can tell you the name of a note and the key a tune is by listening to it. People with relative pitch can name the interval between two or more notes, but not what key they're in.
You can't follow lines without some relative pitch ability. But... listening is easier than labelling and you can still experience a line as music without necessarily being able to write out the notes on paper. Learning to do that takes training and effort.
I put some time into developing my listening, and I found that when I practiced naming intervals my pitch discrimination improved. I could hear more detail and also hear when things were out of tune. (Not always a good thing.)
I have a faint ghost of perfect pitch, but it's very undeveloped.
I don't have much of a memory for structure at all.
I can't sing for toffee without a line to follow, but I can improvise easily around a structure I've learned or know already. (A lot of music uses the same few simple structures, so once you've learned them you don't need to be able to pick them apart from scratch.)
So it's not either/or. I'd expect your friend probably put some time into training his ears or had lessons. If you did the same you'd likely move in that direction, even though you won't be hearing the same things in the same ways.
My thinking is: the ear can pick up certain frequencies, and music is a way of organising them.
So bass frequencies: what are they like?
I wanted to show the bass guitar, electric and the double bass as acoustic, but there are lots of bass tones.
I can't pick out different harmonies in music
Most people (judging by sales) don't listen to music. They listen to either the lyrics or the melodies.
The pulse behind can go pump pump pump pump, that's fine. Listening to music involves concentration and luck--luck such that you have the correctly open ears to appreciate (for good or ill) what, acoustically, is happening.
So I'm asking: can you hear the bass? Can you hear what its doing? In particular, the Sonny Rollins piece. Can you hear that Sonny is playing the sax melody, and that behind him and with him are the bass and the drums? If you can hear that, it's just words, concentrate on the music (if you like it!) But that's an honest question: can you hear that the sax is doing one thing and the bass is doing something else, and that they are complementing each other by making sounds that you find sonorous? Honest question! By sonorous I mean "soothing to the ear" such that the sounds bring you peace and calm--and other emotions--that the sounds create emotions, and the more you can individuate and the more you understand, the wider your range.
Heh!
Hope that makes some sense! Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
Victor Wooten is awesome, how does he do that?! Bass and drums together work well for me, both with lots of space and with more rock to it.
When the third sound comes in I find it harder because the higher frequencies on sax and guitar drown out the bass for me. If I concentrate really hard I can pick out the bass and drums for a few seconds at a time - easier when the clip moves to show those instruments.
If I were in a club I would switch my hearing aid off and just feel the bass and drums and cut out the sound of the music/tune/lyrics whatever. I guess when I just listen (I don't get to feel the bass through my body when it is just pumping into my ear through the loop but otherwise I can't really 'hear' anything) the higher frequencies are the ones I can hear better compared to the lower ones. I don't hear it all equally to be able to distinguish the different sounds. Easier to hear the bass through the sax cos there are more spaces perhaps. Sonorous for sure yeah!
But wow, thanks. What an ear opener! Ad astra per aspera
If you like bass and drums then dub reggae from the seventies should be enjoyable. Ceebs knows more about that than me. Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
Maybe you can try to increase bass volume on your computer, see if it makes the bass line easier to follow. Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
I can't see a base volume setting on here, certainly not for use watching you tube. I can manipulate that with MP3s though and it does help. Ad astra per aspera