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Early morning fueling in Wik, Scotland. T-210 M, N761TD. Adrian and I tend the hose.
Paris next.

Unique Mooney during the preflight-- the result of a NASA study into flush riveting, and the differences between what the designer envisions, and what can actually be produced.
Mooney made ten of these, representing the best work they could do. Incredibly, the difference was almost unmeasurable.
Incidentally, with 4 aboard, the CAFE efficiency of this airplane is better than most fuel-efficient cars.

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by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 at 05:29:24 AM EST
Oh Geezer, those Mooneys were so wonderful.  When I was in junior high school, I was in a model airplane club.  Our advisor had a Mk 20.  We would occasionally get to ride along when he flew it on his business trips. Before I quit building these flying models, I had built about three dozen of them.

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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 at 11:24:46 AM EST
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I still build models- I tend to destroy radio control models rather fast- fortunately my piloting skills are better in the real thing, or I'd be very dead.
Dumbest thing I ever did was to sell either the 210 or the Mooney. It is possible to fly either with no legs- but it is a bigger hassle with the 210 in some ways. Though it's the better all-round bird, it is big and has the need for  rather large rudder input at times. The Mooney is close-coupled and has an interlocked rudder-aileron control system, so rudder input is less unless you are doing barrel rolls or something--edgy. But I had three kids- not enough seats. Dumb. Now one of them has gone his own way-, and so has the Mooney. Bah.

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by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 at 03:39:53 PM EST
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Really nice bird, by the way. With no dihedral--is it an RC or a control line? If it's RC, looks like a handful to fly, though. You must be a lot better at that than I am.
Spent many wonderful years in model clubs, and building on my own.

And yes, the Mooney is a legendary bird, and deserves the rep.--as well as the rep as a tough bird to land well.


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by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 at 03:46:52 PM EST
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Control line.  I never had the scratch to buy the radio equipment back in the 60s.  I wasn't ever much of a pilot but I LOVED building these things.  I guess I was in love with the idea that flying--something so difficult it took humanity until 1903 to figure out--had become a boys' hobby less than 60 years later.  And as you know, the laws of aerodynamics are the same for models.

I only hope you have made it to Oshkosh at least once in your life.  For folks who like airplanes, it really IS a view of heaven.

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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 at 05:15:03 PM EST
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Actually, no. Regretfully not.
The Sun-n-Fun fly-in in Florida is also a wonderful festival- a celebration of art in glass-- a lot less emphasis on the warbird theme, and a bit more on the incredible skills that have developed among the dreamers and craftspeople in composite construction. Still, I regret missing Oshkosh very much.
My first degree was in aero engineering---worked until I found that there were few to no jobs for designers unless it went boom at the end of the flight.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Mon Mar 24th, 2008 at 06:50:36 AM EST
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There ARE a lot of warbirds at Oshkosh  But then, there is a lot of everything.  My favorites are the homebuilts, the 30s classics, and the ultralights.  But everything is in pristine condition--no one would DARE show up with anything but a perfect airplane.

I live about 12 km. from Minnesota's most active sport airport--a big grass field used originally to train B-17 pilots for WW II.  Last summer, I  drove over on a spectacular day to watch some flying and wound up sitting in on a class for people building some very light high performance sailplanes.  (Try a 12 meter wingspan glider weighing only 70 kg.)  They were passing around parts made from carbon fiber that were so light, it was like the laws of gravity had been suspended.  So yes indeed, seeing what the composite guys are making these days is always the highlight of these airshows.

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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Mon Mar 24th, 2008 at 01:01:24 PM EST
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I would give a lot to have attended that class--that's what I did for art.
Sometime I'll post some photos of the "Dixie Skipper"- a  carbon fibre ducted fan amphibian I was building when the Mercedes came along.  

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Tue Mar 25th, 2008 at 10:48:26 AM EST
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I have a favor to ask, if you plan to visit Oshkosh this year. Would you drop me a line?

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Tue Mar 25th, 2008 at 10:52:26 AM EST
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Are you having problems getting carbon fiber?  I hear it is rare and expensive because Boeing has bought so much for their new 787s (I think).  Hey, that's the game.  The homebuilders live off the droppings of the military-industrial complex.  Lot of premium material and expertise is available.  The guy conducting our seminar on carbon fiber was from Kansas with Boeing and Beech experience.

Haven't been to Oshkosh since 2001.  I have been four times--1978, 1985, 1996.  The closest I came to building an airplane was after watching Dick Rutan fly a Long-Eze through an aerobatic pattern.

I am getting a bit old for this.  The flight line from the warbirds to the ultralights is about 6 km and there are several thousand perfect airplanes you just have to look at carefully in between.  Wears me out!  And lately, it has been very hot.  Not only is 7 hours in 37° heat a bit much, but such hot air screws up the low-level acrobatics.  But I am certain I will go again.  We'll see.

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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 12:07:29 AM EST
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I found some Oshkosh footage I shot in 2000. (NOT 2001)  I was trying to teach a friend video editing and I had the footage on the computer.




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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 01:35:23 AM EST
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