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From what I understand, in the UK the counting is done by party official, without public access. That'd make me uncomfortable.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 at 04:56:49 AM EST
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Party official? Not that I'm aware of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Returning_officer

Usually a civil servant.
No guarantee of avoiding bias, but generically most of them seem to be fairly civically minded.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 at 01:42:31 PM EST
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Having been a vote adjudicator at several vote count it is a very transparent affair with officials of all parties in attendance and able to inspect the vote tallies (and ballots) at any stage. Any concerns can be brought to the attention of the officer in charge of the count at the time, counting can be suspended or repeated if required.

I may have issues regarding the postal ballot system which was poorly designed and wide open to abuse but, by and large, our voting system is fair.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 30th, 2008 at 11:57:36 AM EST
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Hand counting seems fair - it's very British, in the sense of being ramshackle and low tech, but it seems to work, and I wouldn't want to see it replaced.

But the postal ballot system has been proven to be fraudulent. It's wide open to abuse and lacks the safeguards that hand counting offers.

We'll surely see a push for e-voting soon, but given the UK's technological skills I wouldn't expect any progress on that for at least a couple of decades. By which time it probably won't be an issue any more.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 at 09:11:23 AM EST
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I remember something about a Labour election fraud case somewhere in the North(?) about three years ago. Do you remember details?

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by DoDo on Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 at 09:35:50 AM EST
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I can't remember the details but the impact it has on us on our campaigning now is to have it drummed into us - you do NOT go anywhere near anybody once their postal ballot has arrived.

People do sometimes ask canvassers to help them fill in the forms, if they can't see or read too well etc.  We are not allowed to touch them.  I can't remember if it was actual fraud or a very stupid mistake but you won't find Labour Party campaigners interfering with postal ballots now - if they do, they shouldn't be in the party, and would get kicked out.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 02:14:55 AM EST
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Votes are hand-counted in Spain with very few problems and in a very short time, also with political parties being able to send observers to as many polling stations as they can muster.

The problem with the US elections seems to be the complexity of the ballot, but that is an artifact of insisting on putting on the same ballot all elections and referenda being voted on.

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 at 09:50:16 AM EST
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Why can't it be completely public ? I'm more comfortable with that...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 at 12:18:42 PM EST
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