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I'd say the first one is in better condition than mine!  Much better colour balance.

Did you focus these on manual?  I've tended to spot meter everything, along with the focus, and haven't experimented enough with the different metering settings on the camera.

I seem to be able to improve one aspect of technique at a time, then I look back later on and realise that I'd ruined a shot because I hadn't exposed it correctly or thought about increasing the aperture or changing the ISO...

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 05:37:35 AM EST
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The problem with the colour on yours is that it's impossible to balance properly: tungsten is orange, fluorescent is green, and they've got both.

Spot metering is not what I would have chosen for a shot like that. What did you meter off? Or do you mean the matrix metering?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 05:42:49 AM EST
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I don't think I know what I mean!
The in viewfinder thing.  I've had it set on the single dot and I'm now confusing myself between the focussing and the metering.  

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 05:48:13 AM EST
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Single dot is spot. Why set it on that? Are you actually using it as spot meter?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:10:47 AM EST
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For some reason I set it to that ages ago and have never read up on metering enough to know better and think about changing it to suit different scenes.

Any useful summary for me to bear in mind on metering?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:22:18 AM EST
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Spot metering bad unless you're working hard. Matrix metering good, except when it isn't.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:23:04 AM EST
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What does working hard involve?
And when isn't matrix metering good?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:25:17 AM EST
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Working hard is when the lighting conditions are too difficult for the matrix metering to handle or when you have  a definite part of the picture you know you want to come up mid-toned.

Matrix metering isn't good when its voodoo guesses wrong - back-lighting is a classic, though with D-lenses (that tell it where they're focused) it can do some magic.  Lots of light or dark areas in the frame can confuse it too. Snow, sand, etc.

One recent example that occurs to me is shooting a small stained glass window from inside the church.

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The camera decided it was really dark because the window only took up a relatvely small amount of the frame, while I really wanted to expose for the light outside the window, which made the interior stone black but showed the colours of the window nicely. In that case I spot metered on the window.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:34:44 AM EST
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For comparison, this is under the same lighting conditions, pretty much:

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by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:38:59 AM EST
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Colman:
when its voodoo guesses wrong

Exactly... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:53:36 AM EST
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I shoot always in "raw" (NEF) as I find jpeg's near to impossible to correct properly !
As Colman stated, problems are with mixed light temperatures (on film as with digital). Your eyes adapt and you don't see (usually) the mess it can create, thus the studio work in controlled light :-)

I manual focused because it was a 50mm Nikkor-S that is about thirty years old :-) The second shot was with AF (20/2.8 AFD).

The first picture isn't really sharp (and the subject was speaking so his chin is more blurred then the rest), but acceptable in small sizes, while the second picture can be blown up at decent sizes !

On the D200, matrix metering is quite good for most cases (apart when you have a direct light in the frame), because I started shooting a long time ago I'm more familiar with centered average metering, as I know what I will get.
I usually keep spot metering for peculiar cases, as in the second picture with the big white diffusing background...

Don't worry about improving one aspect at a time, it'll soak in :-)
Apart from very specific shoots (macro, astronomy, stills, etc.) you shouldn't have to "think" too much, meaning the basics (composition, settings, etc.) should be more on the instinctive side... But to get there, most of us ruined kilometres of good film :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:09:13 AM EST
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Yes, I'd generally leave it on matrix unless I know it's going to get it wrong - though I watch the settings it chooses. Modern matrix metering is pretty smart.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 06:19:32 AM EST
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