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Jerome, are you sure that the Spanish housing boom is less of a bubble than the US one? My impression was that the fundamentals were a bit better but that the boom was even larger. The US had good grounds for a housing boom at the turn of the century - significant population growth (adding the population of France 1990-2010) plus a serious housing slump in the first half of the nineties. A number of metro areas have also run out of land within the traditional suburban area meaning higher than historic housing costs either in the form of prices or longer commutes from exurban developments.
by MarekNYC on Sun Mar 9th, 2008 at 01:51:11 PM EST
It's unquestionably been a huge boom, but it's also been based on very real economic growth, massive population expansion (including a huge immigration influx), and social changes, such as a large generation of young people moving away from home.

Spanish banks seem to have been smart enough to avoid the subprime crisis, and to have diversified their bubbly assets into other, maybe more real assets (foreign banks, foreign companies); ditto Spanish companies which have been on a rampage throughout Europe.

So, I really don't know. We'll find out soon enough, I suppose.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2008 at 02:48:36 PM EST
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I agree with you on the other sound reasons for the boom, but the economic growth component was largely, well, the housing boom. I realise I should come up with references, but my (not fully reliable) memory is that I read that it explained over half of the growth over the recent past.

Which is massive. There are a LOT of empty houses, that promoters expected to sell to well-off Englishmen. Let's see if that happens...

Also, while in the recent past there may have been a lot of youngsters moving away from home (mostly because they kept delaying the move, because prices were so high and because the rental market is very small in Spain), it's unlikely to be strong in the future: Spaniards have very few children. In the short run, it means less need for this extra room, in the longer run it would mean, of course, fewer people. So a lot will depend on immigration.

On the other hand, as you say Spanish banks have been WAY shrewder than Wall Street and bought over much of fast-growing Latin American industries, so the aggregate wealth may not be all that bad. As for distribution issues (which will be very real), I guess yesterday's election is a comforting element.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Mar 10th, 2008 at 04:36:43 AM EST
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