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I disagree.  HRC has a very good chance of winning the nomination, yet she is called upon to desist. Why is that, unless it's because some people don't think she should have a chance to fight for what she wants?
by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:22:42 PM EST
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I've said this before, and no doubt I'll have to say it again at some point But even though I think we've reached a point where it's becoming increasingly unlikely that Hillary can win from a purely mathematical point of view, (barring Obama being found being beaten by a group of whores dressed in KKK uniforms on his time off, or something similar) I still think she should stay in. every minute of TV time used up by the democrats is a minute that the republicans have to compete with, so they have the choice of retreating to stunt politics, throwing money at the problem, or being invisible on the national news agenda.

Whoever wins however, on the night of the last primary, the person who is behind has to come out and using every ounce of political skill and sincerity that they posses declare the other to be the winner. Say that some people on both sides have gone too far during the primary process, and have been dealt with by their respective campaigns. The primary process is now over and that he/she will be happy to do everything in their power to make sure the next president is democratic.

The important thing is to declare the others victory rather than have it declared for you, if you want to have a position going forwards that gives a chance of the ultimate job in the future.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:58:04 PM EST
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it's funny that the Dems "lost" the last presidential election because their candidate wouldn't fight back, and now that they have a fighter, they don't like HER.  If only Obama were as tough!
by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:26:36 PM EST
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I think she was unlucky in managing to end up facing someone who's candidate myth can be sold as being more iconic than hers.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:39:12 PM EST
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just because men want it that way.

sorry, but she is part of the last group of people who got the vote in the USA and that seems to be an issue with many people.

Check out Joan Walsh's column last week on misogyny and HRC at www.salon.com

by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:18:06 PM EST
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I think it slightly disingeneous to blame the whole situation on misogeny. There has to be at least a factor that it's reflexive anti-clintonish as much as anti woman.

As for the "this group got the vote last so they deserve a representative as president" argument how do you balance lack of the vote against slavery? I'm not saying one or the other is particularly worse. but if that appraoch is brought up, then how would you deal with the obvious counterclaim?


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 05:06:22 PM EST
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