Destruction of evidence is unlikely to be foolproof. There's so much material on the record that in a sane world there would be no question of getting a conviction.
But endless appeals would go up to the supreme court, which is packed with toadies, so making a prosecution stick would be very tough.
I still think we'll see a wave of pardons, which will make prosecution impossible.
I don't think it's cajones, unless he has some unusually impressive wooden furniture.
Well, you know how those elitist Negroes on the South Side of Chicago are with their fancy IKEA furniture. Once Michelle refused the lawn chairs in the dining room, it was all downhill....
SCOTUS is a good point. I doubt we could get a conviction to stick with that crowd. They'd find a technicality to throw it out on, although to their credit -- and I think John Roberts was the surprise on it -- they did, despite the toadies, rule that the Geneva Conventions applied to Gitmo, so maybe not.
Pardons would be tough, because they'd need to be charged and convicted in these things in order to receive them. And Bush can't pardon himself, since he'd have to be impeached (or out of office) in order to be charged with a criminal offense, and so on.
It could be done. The bigger obstacle, I think, would be a lack of spine on the Democrats' part, assisted by a press that would happily portray it as some kind of replay of the Great Purge.
One way or another, the law was clearly broken, and that needs to be hammered into the minds of voters. And it needs to be tied in with future threats to our soldiers ("Quite literally hurting the troops!"). Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
All we need is a foreign government thats willing to step up to bat for freedom, say one that sufficiently pissed at being used for the transport of people on rendition flights through their territory. Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
It would really have to be Yurp, but between Burlesqueoni, Sarkozy, and GodKing Blair, I can't see it happening.
Also, it would have to be done in the US to restore whatever credibility it has left. So again - not happening. Much easier to accept the pardons and let the SCOTUS simper obsequiously.
In the end it's about president-as-totem. If you attack that, you're attacking the natural order - the one where the biggest thug takes everything, and has no responsibility to anyone unless they feel like being generous.
For all the nonsense about freedom and opportunity and hope, that's America's true red beating heart, and it's going to take more than someone like Obama to change that narrative.
And I definitely agree that it would really have to be done in the states to restore any moral credibility to the US government Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
