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Of course Arab is maybe a little too specific.  Not really a broad enough net to cover all that get slandered, we have persians, turks,...."Arab" really doesn't cover the middle east all that well.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 04:37:55 PM EST
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That's not how it works. If the discriminators call you an Arab, that's what they see you. (Also consider Sikhs post-9/11.)

When I was in then West Germany, where racial hatred then focused on "Turks" (and refugees), I made the experience that I am a Turk if I open my mouth and don't speak German.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 04:56:50 PM EST
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same thing happens in Québec - if you can speak Québecois, you are a Québecois, even if you happen to be Chinese

if you can't, you're an Anglo even if you have a French name

if you speak French like Jérôme, you're in trouble ;-)

by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:16:14 PM EST
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And if you speak French with a mostly Swiss with a bit of American accent you can mutually mock each other.
by MarekNYC on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:18:14 PM EST
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a Swiss romand friend tells me about how he spent an entire year in Québec with everyone responding to him in English because they didn't recognize the accent he had in French!  

he was very disappointed.  

by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:26:35 PM EST
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mais lais Suiisseh n'onnt paas d'aacceneh

(ok, not really sure how to represent a Swiss accent in writing)

by MarekNYC on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:29:35 PM EST
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but maybe that's because I'm already familiar with the accent, having spent a lot of holidays as a kid in Valais.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 05:17:27 AM EST
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if you speak French like Jérôme, you're in trouble ;-)

Surely you mean:


if you speak French, like Jérôme, you're in trouble ;-)


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:21:46 PM EST
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no, I mean if you speak French with the same accent as Jérôme, you're in trouble.  they think French people are arrogant, in the same way that many Americans think people who speak English with an accent from England (except maybe Cockney), are arrogant.  

Comprende?

by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:24:55 PM EST
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by the way, Jérôme, how is your accent in English?  I have never heard you speak
by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:30:30 PM EST
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I'd say he has a fairly light french accent in english, from the couple of sentances I've heard him speak on the TV.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:56:36 PM EST
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that's good.  A French accent is very difficult to avoid when speaking English, but a slight one  adds charm and people pay more attention to what one is saying.  
by zoe on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 07:02:29 PM EST
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It's very sexy, oops I mean slight.
by Maryb2004 on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 10:37:25 PM EST
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aha, the truth is out!

this explains Jérôme's mainly female entourage!

by zoe on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 01:57:46 AM EST
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In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 05:21:21 AM EST
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your wife and children in reality

in the blogosphere, many DKosers and practically all Eurotribians, non?

by zoe on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 10:26:21 AM EST
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maybe that should be Eurotribbles ( joke for Trekkies)
by zoe on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 10:27:13 AM EST
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If you speak French, then you're in trouble

"like Jérôme" provides no additional information in that sentence if you only use me as a notional Frenchman with no identifiable accent; otherwise it suggests that it is the way I speak specifically  which would get one in trouble. But maybe that's what you mean?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 05:20:11 AM EST
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language is funny isn't it?

no, I only used you as an example but meant all Frenchmen

by zoe on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 10:23:44 AM EST
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if you speak French with the same accent as Jérôme, you're in trouble.  they think French people are arrogant,

Indeed, they are...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 03:37:13 PM EST
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