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I largely agree with you on the likely scenario, except that the remaining Europhiles would actually be likely to favour  EU defense integration as a replacement for the security provided by NATO. On the other hand the rest would seek to sabotage any integration or joint action on any issue whatsoever.

By Chavez I meant largely democratic but with a fair amount of authoritarianism thrown in, very nationalist, very anti-neoliberal, very hostile to the business interests of the 'enemy', skip the socialist though not the revolutionary rhetoric, tons of bluster. Thus, on the Baltic pipeline you'd probably get threats to blow the thing up in any crisis. You'd also be likely to see far worse tensions with Belarus regarding the Polish minority in the West of the country.

that will be first of all really bad for Poland

Absolutely. Yet another good reason for any Pole to support NATO's continued existence.

by MarekNYC on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 01:26:35 PM EST
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On the other hand the rest would seek to sabotage any integration or joint action on any issue whatsoever.

If bilateral Atlanticism is so en vogue already, why do you think all of its supporters would turn across-the-board Eurosaboteurs?

By Chavez I meant ... very anti-neoliberal, very hostile to the business interests of the 'enemy'

(For others) read: German Capital Out.

blow the thing up in any crisis. You'd also be likely to see far worse tensions with Belarus

Hm, that'd bring a triple pipeline blackmail situation: Russia could blackmail everyone, Belarus could blackmail Poland, and Poland could blackmail Germany. Huh...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 01:37:01 PM EST
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