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We are talking about EU countries, right?

No, we are talking about countries potentially getting mad at and maybe even leraving the EU.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 02:06:03 PM EST
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I am sorry, you are asking me to predict the future in which you've created a half dozen radical hypothetical scenarios?!  Can we keep this a reality-based community?

Who knows what Russia or the US would do.  We can also throw in, what if the UN didn't exist for the hell of it.

But I'd like to stick to talking about actual reality.  Or are you in fact suggesting the rationale for maintaining NATO is based on a rather impressive list of far-flung scenarios.  NATO dissolves ->Poland leaves EU ->Poland begins slaughtering Russians -> Polish civil war -> Europe does nothing -> UN does nothing -> Russia reacts unilaterally -> America reacts after Russia's gone and bombed Poland (no, you did not explicitly ask that, but it was implied).

Frankly, I think we'll all die from global warming before any of that happens...  Or be invaded by alien unicorns.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 02:19:58 PM EST
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you are asking me to predict the future in which you've created a half dozen radical hypothetical scenarios?

For me, only two radical hypotheticals are involved (NATO dissolution and worst-case-scenario outcome for the political landscape of the Russophobic block).

No need to get testy. I'm not suggesting anything, I explore possibilities to form an opinion, possibilities that I should consider if I want NATO dissolved (which I do want). If you don't like hypothetising, don't answer. (And don't call for NATO's dissolution either.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 02:24:51 PM EST
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I know, I know.  I am sorry.  It's a good excersize.  I just hate having to assume the worst in people.  Surely at worst people are half bad and half good, and I'd rather be hypothesizing about how to live in peace without missile shields than the opposite.  It does seem that in order to justify NATO's existence we do have to assume the worst in people.  And accept Russophobia is an immutable force.  Seems like it would be cheaper to just stop hating each other...

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 at 02:58:20 PM EST
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