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  •  keeping them indoors (a very good idea with all the feline leukemia going around, which cannot be prevented by vaccination)

  •  putting a collar on them with bells so that the birds hear the cat

  •  keeping them in a closed area
by zoe on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 05:54:48 PM EST
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zoe:
(a very good idea with all the feline leukemia going around, which cannot be prevented by vaccination)

FLV vaccination is about 75-85% effective, which is reasonably good as animal vaccinations go.

Bell collars are laughably innefective, and keeping cats in a closed area, is a big cause of feline obesity and so would be equally cruel

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:19:47 PM EST
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my cats were never fat.
by zoe on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:25:51 PM EST
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Bell collars are laughably innefective,...

Citation?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

(Jus' kidding.)

Member of the Anti-Fabulousness League since 1987.

by Ephemera on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:29:15 PM EST
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No citation needed, the bell might make a jangly noise when they're walking about, but stalking prey, they move too slowly to ring the bell, till the last second pounce, and by then its too late in a vast majority of cases.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:32:50 PM EST
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really...

and you know this how?

by zoe on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:36:35 PM EST
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six months sleeping with a vet.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:39:15 PM EST
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a vet from the war in Afghanistan or Iraq?
by zoe on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:42:31 PM EST
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'Nam...

Birmin(g)am

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:48:35 PM EST
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Six months!?!?!

You stud.

Member of the Anti-Fabulousness League since 1987.

by Ephemera on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:43:44 PM EST
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it depends which type of bell you put on.  the jingles don't work very well but there are real bells that work extremely well.  
by zoe on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:44:46 PM EST
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My Vet friend was convinced that the idea that any bell would work was wishful thinking and guilt avoidance on the part of cat owners.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:50:55 PM EST
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nope.  there are the real bells, which were extremely well.

of course, you have to take it off at night if you expect to get any sleep.  

I am seriously surprised by the reaction of the people here - like talking to people 20 years ago about paper recycling or something.  really, really backwards!

by zoe on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 06:55:08 PM EST
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Based on my experience, ceebs is right.

I have a wildlife-friendly garden.  It's taken years of neglect work to get it that way.  I've got hedges, trees, nestboxes, a wildlife pond and buy local organic birdseed in 30kg sacks.  

I like the birds in my garden.  Really.

But bells don't work, because cats don't hunt by running after birds. I used to have two bells on the collar of one of my cats, and, as ceebs said, it was an exercise in assuaging guilt.  A tabby, he was invisible when lurking under a bush, and all he had to do was wait for a bird to come within range and pounce.

What the bells did do was irritate him.  And with hindsight, I think it may have been rather cruel as well as pointless to attach an annoying noisy thing to the neck of a creature with far more sensitive ears than ours.

by Sassafras on Thu Apr 24th, 2008 at 02:12:02 AM EST
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