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No, I'm saying that the "real economy" phrase is another one of those jargon shell games by marginalist economists, used with one technical meaning in technical discussions with economists, but read as meaning something else when they describe their analysis to non-economists.

Indeed,, pretending that there is a real economy distinct from the monetary economy does an excellent job of confusing the effort to distinguish between speculation and prudent financial investment, because that is a distinct that is within the financial sector.

Appealing to a fictitious realm to try to make the distinction does not help matters, because the con artists rationalizing the speculation when it helps them garner a larger share of a nation's income tend to be skilled at creating fictions.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Apr 25th, 2008 at 10:34:17 AM EST
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I think I get it better now.

The distinction is not between the "real economy" and the "financial economy" - rather, it is between the "making stuff" economy and the "making bets" economy. And the shell game is that parts of the financial sector are in the former, and parts of the non-financial sector are probably in the latter.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Apr 25th, 2008 at 11:04:30 AM EST
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... the finance sector at the service of the productive sector, or the productive sector at the service of the finance sector.

The finance sector makes an excellent servant for a monetary production economy, and an egregious master.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Apr 25th, 2008 at 11:32:23 PM EST
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glad you explained that I was in danger of being suckered by the bollocks of their frame there for a minute.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 25th, 2008 at 01:35:07 PM EST
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The thing is, it could be a great frame, but they've sabotaged it.

Kind of "attack them where you are weakest", marginalist economics claiming ownership of the term "real".


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Apr 26th, 2008 at 12:34:20 AM EST
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