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Interesting read. The language seems to become more and more strident - the ideological war trenches are outlining clearer.

  1. The CAP, as a subsidy vehicle, has its pros and cons but as a model for a regional bloc it is interesting for analysis - as ET shines in deconstructing (pace Metatone), I wonder if it's worthwhile to take a thorough look.

  2. Could we already say as a basic premise that complete free market, and the abandon of any agricultural subsidy, is an unrealistic concept?

  3. As Tanzania's agricultural policy under Nyerere (Ujamaa) showed, there must be a sensible balance between free market forces and agricultural policies. If farmers hadn't been allowed to work on their own land under Nyerere, the collective land model would have brought starvation to possibly millions more.
by Nomad on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 07:10:50 AM EST
  1. A thorough look would be good if we had volunteers ;) It's very big and gnarly: each member state defines its own rules for distributing subsidies.

  2. I think so, unless we see farming and the world's food supply as being a transnational corporate playground.

  3. I agree with that. A regional policy doesn't necessarily imply collectivisation.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 07:55:47 AM EST
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1. Sounds interesting. Lots of propaganda about the CAP in the press, not a lot of info.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 08:21:20 AM EST
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True. There'll be a lot of shouting about it in the second half of the year with the French presidency.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 11:48:28 AM EST
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  1. The CAP can be analysed, certainly. My take is that little good has come of it.

  2. The very concept of a complete free market is nonsense. Markets require rules set and/or enforced by the state. Agriculture requires a lot of regulation in its current set-up, if we care at all about public health.

Rather than subsidising industrial agricultural production we should pay farmers for services they perform like maintaining soil quality, local biodiversity and a scenic landscape (the value of the latter is in large part dependent on culture and should thereby be differentiated).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 08:19:12 PM EST
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Rather than subsidising industrial agricultural production we should pay farmers for services they perform like maintaining soil quality, local biodiversity and a scenic landscape (the value of the latter is in large part dependent on culture and should thereby be differentiated).

{Rises, Applauds. OK, Applauds some more, with some "hear, hear"s thrown in for good measure.}

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 01:44:04 PM EST
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