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It works fine for me. maybe somebody fixed it already.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:19:40 PM EST
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When you leave the "/" out of the second "<center>", it makes the entire front page centered.  Which looks funny.  

I just fixed it.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:24:52 PM EST
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I believe this is an error Firefox corrects automatically, so Fran may not have seen it even before your correction.

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by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:05:33 PM EST
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Maybe, because I was spending a few minutes to figure out the problem - as the / was there, and that was the first thing I was looking for.

Firefox seems to play up anyway - it often crashes or it is difficult to watch you tube. And IT guy told me it is because they are adding on a lot of beta stuff.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:09:41 PM EST
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Firefox seems to play up anyway

No, what I meant is the opposite: Firefox is so good that it displays correctly even if the HTML is bad (and you only see the error in IE or other browsers).

it often crashes or it is difficult to watch you tube

Do you have Firefox 3.0 already? That's the version with lots of beta stuff. I still use 2.0 (2.0.0.14 to be precise), it's very stable, and the only problem is YouTube not playing when a lot of videos are embedded -- but that's a combination problem of Firefox and the new version of the Flash video applets (there is a milder problem in IE, too, but page reload solves it).

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:16:15 PM EST
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DoDo:
I still use 2.0 (2.0.0.14 to be precise),
Thats the one I have too. But there are often upgrades! And I will try you tube on IE.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:19:51 PM EST
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The Firefox 2.0.0.xx upgrades are security upgrades, they shouldn't cause crashes (or if yes, I' think they would cause ones for me too). Do you have Firefox extensions (beyond someone's TribExt)?

Also, do you have YouTube viewing problems when watching it on YouTube itself, when watching any embed, or only when a lots of videos are embedded like in rg's music diaries? And wen do you have the othger crashes? (And what is your OS and basic computer parameters? ;-) )

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:34:15 PM EST
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When I go to you tube it works most of the times better. Well, firefox crashes almost every day, often more than once.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:36:43 PM EST
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What's Firefox 3 ? Why doesn't Firefox 2 offer to install it?

Because I confirm that Firefox 2 has problems with Youtube. I simply opened rg's diary this morning and it immediately crashed Firefox.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:57:18 PM EST
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Ouch!  I'm still getting the 00:02 problem intermittently--I use IE as a backup if Firefox keeps not working after closing and re-opening, though maybe there are other free browsers that could do the job?

(It could also be that Firefox is reacting particularly to the World Domination Enterprises video--if I'd found "Message for you People" it might have blown up some local sheep)

Ah!  If you click the following link you'll hear Message for you People, my favourite song by WDE--I saw them once in Southampton and--this will only make sense if you have a listen to the song--they came on stage started up, played for a minute then the guitarist stopped the band.

"Sorry," he said, twiddling his tuning keys.  "We were in Belgium last night and I think my guitar's gone out of tune."

Boom boom!

What a great song!

(Ar urgh, though, modern technology, if you don't hear Message for you People--it's a myspace page so you have to go the right-hand side and click on Message for you People--then....ah!)

I would say that this is a marmite of a song.

Message for you people

(I spent ages trying to find that track--and suddenly there it was!)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:45:29 PM EST
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That wasn't a complaint about your sound diaries, btw. I'd have recommended more of them if I'd been able to keep Firefox steady while checking them out. I know, I could open them with IE, but... so why don't I try?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:51:00 PM EST
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I'm going to try downloading the latest version via someone's link, I'll update next week's diary with my progress.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:03:30 PM EST
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It is a Firefox problem, sure. IE opens the diary without a hitch.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:55:13 PM EST
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For me, the diary opens in Firefox, too. Only the videos don't play. In IE, I can play 3-4 videos at a time, then the rest will say "We are sorry, video no more available", but if I reload the page, it works.

So it's a combination problem, maybe with a third element that makes it crash for you.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:18:24 PM EST
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It's the next version of Firefox. It is still in beta, but the last release seems quite stable. When finally released Firefox will likely prompt you to install it. In the meantime, you can get it here if you'd like. It does seem to fix some problems of Firefox 2.xxxxx, videos work well for me (no probs. with rg's diaries as far as I can tell), and it doesn't suffer memoryleaks to the same horrible extent as earlier versions.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:46:49 PM EST
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I started getting problems with adobe pdf reader after the last update. Don't know if it was the pdf update or the firefox update, though. Youtube is also still a problem (but a problem anyway on my slow laptop with its intel 'incinerator oven' celeron processor).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:22:44 PM EST
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I don't know what this is, but I am sure I have put the / in on past occasions when it didn't centre properly for other browsers. Firefox does correct for the missing /, but my feeling is that the / is not really missing.

You know, it's not a lot to believe that people can sometimes miss out a /, but I find it a lot to believe this happens so often with the same command in the same circumstances.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:54:17 PM EST
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When I go to fix a centering problem, the missing "" is always the culprit.  Maybe she has a sticky "" key? :)  It's no big deal, we all commit typo's here.  Judge not lest...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:59:56 PM EST
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It happens to other people too. Twice to me. I find that odd (not that it should happen to me, but that it should happen to different users, repeatedly).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:53:57 PM EST
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am sure I have put the / in on past occasions when it didn't centre properly for other browsers

Maybe you looked after someone else corrected. This happened once a month or two ago when I did the correction for you. (And it was just then that I checked the page's look both on Firefox and IE.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:00:00 PM EST
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Maybe there are real gnomes who live in the site and magically fix these things...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:03:59 PM EST
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Computer gnomes - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
Power-users are encouraged to sew little hats, shoes, and jerkins for them and post them through the floppy drive. Given that within the computer gnome society, it is the women who give the orders, other people have suggested leaving out tiny dildos for the gnome women to pleasure themselves with. Another recommendation has been the supplement of viagra, which would keep both the male and female gnomes otherwise occupied.

Good gracious.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:21:21 PM EST
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Worth repeating...

within the computer gnome society, it is the women who give the orders

;p

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:34:08 PM EST
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Oh, that was why I said good gracious.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:37:45 PM EST
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Well, no, I mean I look before I post...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:20:24 PM EST
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As you said back then, yet I most certainly inserted a lacking / .

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:28:43 PM EST
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As a demonstration, with apologies to Fran, I removed the / from the closing centring tag in this morning's Salon, compare appearance in Firefox and in IE.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:45:58 PM EST
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Apology accepted :-) I just compared firefox and IE and IE actually looks messed up after the Salon, whereas on firefox it looks almost okay, except for the tag line.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 10:16:49 PM EST
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I now reverted it back to normal.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 12:39:23 PM EST
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