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People who have aided and abetted the murder of over a million Iraqis and the destruction of our economy and an American city think they are in a position to condemn Jeremiah Wright. What's that about? How do you let them get away with that? These are people who condemn America all the time, and they think Jeremiah Wright went too far  with a few strong (and basically true) words?

First part correct, second part - huh? Yeah, Aids is a US government conspiracy, Farrakhan is one of the greatest thinkers of the twentieth and twenty first century... the guy's a nut.

 What the hell is Obama supposed to do, pretend the double standard on wacko relatively marginal lefties vs. mainstream influential wacko righties doesn't exist? And should one approve of left wing radical nationalist idiocy just because its right wing variant is so accepted?

by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:36:23 PM EST
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Yea, those were the bits I couldn't go to.

I think Obama was in a heads-they-win, tails-you-lose situation. Nor do I necessarily agree with Arthur's suggestion that Obama's condemnation reveals him to be entirely unprincipled. He's a politician for chrissakes, sometimes you have to kiss some damn ugly babies to get where you're going.

But I think that comment was less about Obama than the partizan nature of the trad med right-wing sycophancy. It isn't even remotely balanced, McCain gets a pass on the stuff Obama (and Clinton) get pasted over. McCain will be the guy you can have a beer with, Obama will be in fawn.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:47:44 PM EST
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I was in "Defend Wright" mode until I read about his comment about Obama's Philly speech.  Sure, Obama didn't embrace Wright's stuff from the videos, even though some of it was true.  Obama, as you said, is a politician.  But Obama hardly threw Wright under the bus that day.  And I do think Wright was showboating a bit in front of the NPC.  The Moyers interview was apparently very good, but Wright flew off the handle at NPC.

Wright did kind of coldcock Obama.

But, personally, my inner conspiracy theorist is still wondering if the whole thing wasn't planned by Wright and Team O as a means to killing the issue once and for all (going along with TBG's "Obama as Uber-Patriot" theme).

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:12:00 PM EST
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my inner conspiracy theorist is still wondering if the whole thing wasn't planned by Wright and Team O as a means to killing the issue once and for all

It occured to me too. But I think Wright has been playing the eyes-rolling scary guy far too madly for it to be a ploy.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:37:44 PM EST
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That's my take on it, too, but it does seem odd to me that the two would have such a bitter and public breakaway so suddenly.

If it was a ploy, it seems to have worked, and it makes them geniuses for manufacturing such an excellent "Sista Souljah" moment.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 06:36:21 PM EST
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Yep. The problem is that "the right-wing version is so accepted". So that the right is always in the bully seat. So easy for them to call the left on "extremism" while they themselves are never called.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:33:07 PM EST
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Even with all that crap, Obama's still polling ahead of McCain, and only about 1/3 of voters give a shit -- far less than those who care about Bush.  (I wonder: Are all of them Republican partisans or just almost all?)  Wright was the GOP's best card.  They played it, and it's turning into overkill.

McCain's getting hurt by that ad in North Carolina, too.  It's getting played as GOP race-baiting.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 07:31:01 PM EST
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