At some point we'll have a whole series fo Cypriot-green lines up and down the country and then, a generation later, everybody will wonder what on earth all of the squabbles were about.
Bring back Tito. keep to the Fen Causeway
It doesn't, only Westerners are still learning details of the mess there. Not a small part of which now has to do with their ill-considered meddling, including the issue at hand.
I'm tempted to wish a plague on all their houses and be done with it.
That's how many Americans view Iraq and Afghanistan, after their bold freedom-bringing army fucked them up (a little more than they were already). *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
And you do realise that you're suggesting that the West was wrong for trying to stop them and we should retreat and just let them get on with it. Cos I don't see anything else but criticism of that act of peace-imposition. keep to the Fen Causeway
Instead, I suggested there were unresolved ethnic troubles in the region post WW2. Whereas Germany apologized for the actions of the Nazis, the ex-Yugoslavs never dealt with the legacy of fascism in the region. This means that many were in denial about its existence in the region. It was all too easy for radicals to exploit this tension, especially when the region was encouraged to subdivide once again by Western Europeans (Germany, mainly). That initial subdivision triggered the mayhem.
Peace-imposition is also what the US is supposedly doing in Iraq. The fact is, The Serbs-Croats-Muslims had an agreement in 1991 which was authored by Lord Carrington. That was scuttled by the interference of Germany and the USA. Subsequently, they displayed ultimate irresponsibility by scuttling the peace and then not providing a security apparatus to prevent bloodshed. To this day, the US and Germany point to Operation Storm as an example of how they defended the Croats and Muslims from the Serbs, though Storm itself was a massive ethnic cleansing campaign. These two countries then conspired again in Kosovo to bring war to the region. Germany was forging documents meant to show that Serbia had conjured "Operation Horseshoe" while at Rambouillet the US declined the peace agreement offered by the Serbs (full autonomy for Kosovo).
It's obvious that the western actors FOSTERED bloodshed rather than prevented it.
after their bold freedom-bringing army fucked them up
Excuse me !!!! The various factions in the former Yugoslavia had spent several years exterminating each other before the West stepped in to try to sort the mess out. And the ungrateful b.....ds are now blaming us for the mess they're still in. Largely cos they're still run by the corrupt murderous militias who want to go back to their splendid killing zones where they could kill anyone they wanted without having some bleeding heart westerner tut-tutting at them. It seems there hasn't been anough death down there lately.
Sorry, we thought it was a good idea to help save civilians from genocidal militias, I personally apologise to all the leaders of the militias for spoiling their fun.
Do you seriously think that all would be peachy if the west hadn't stepped in. Do you think anybody would have stopped the killing of croats/ bosnians/ kosovans/ serbs who had the misfortune to be living in the wrong area unless the West did ? Do you seriously think the militias might have stopped all by themselves ? I see absolutely no evidence of anything other than the fact they were having the most fun you could imagine. Restraint, compassion and simple humanity don't seem to have featured.
So, it's all the West's fault. Talk about refusing to own your own problems. keep to the Fen Causeway
I repeat "we" let those Kosovan militias roam free and reverse-ethnic-cleanse ethnic Serbians, "we" stood down when the militias organised large-scale pogroms in 2004, and "we" didn't weed out them from local political life by the power of Hague, all of which would be "our" responsibility by international law.
Do you seriously think it's over? And why do you argue against a nonexistent position not argued by me ("no Western intervention - all would have been well") - do you seriously think what things could have been done much better, actually solving problems rather than turn shit upside down? And what do you speak about, the West (mainly the USA) was actually an in-battle adviser for the Coratian Reconquista, and not unaware of the ethnic cleansing -- "we" were aiding and abetting what some of those militias did.
And again, ) have NOT said "it's all the West's fault". I have quite explicitely said that the West's faults were added upon prior faults (the part in parantheses you did NOT quote), and that the issue at hand, the diary's subject specifically IS the West's fault. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
