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See, there you go. My main focus is in areas where petrochemicals were never put into the equation ... the African definition of a farmer is a person with a hoe.

In petro-farming, maize does call for more nitrogen fertiliser than potatoes. (On the order of, roughly, 300-400 kg/ha N for maize with yields above 10t/ha, while 200 kg/ha N is "enough" for potatoes)

And then translate that to energy yield per hectare over energy cost of nitrogen fertiliser per hectare ... on the above:

22.5 t/ha  compared to 6.8 t/ha grain maize!

that is:
44 kg N-fertilizer / ton maize yield for maize
9 kg N-fertilizer / ton maize-equivalent yield for potatoes

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 11:27:12 AM EST
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NB, rounding maize down, rounding potatoes up.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 11:28:42 AM EST
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I was just confirming your point about nitrogen fertiliser being the big energy soak in industrial maize (though note my numbers were for >10t/ha).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 11:33:45 AM EST
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Yes, I just working it out in round numbers, rounded conservatively regarding the working hypothesis that N-fertilizer is a big energy cost of maize.

The numbers were the industrial farming ones above, not the kind of hand-worked fields that lie behind in the latest Arc of the Sun diary ... for discussion of targets in the medium term time-frame in the EU or US, industrial farming has to be assumed, though possibly with marginal movement in the direction of sustainability.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 11:42:50 AM EST
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