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There seems to be little rational reason for the fundagelicals to latch onto creationism either - or at least not in preference to relativity-denial, geo-centrism, etc., etc. It's simply biology's bad luck that evolution became the symbol of the scientific, technological, cultural and ethical advances during the 19th century that the fundagelicals so abhor.
Similarly, homosexuality may have simply been targeted because it was associated with one of the sides in some forgotten church schism about something else entirely. Or as a result of a particularly deranged pope, cardinal or inquisitor. Or something else lost to the mists of time and history.
That being said, however, I think that there is something to the idea put forward elsewhere in this thread that it may have to do with the fact that the Church decided that outbreeding the competition would be desirable. This also fits with the doctrine that sex for pleasure is Bad and Sinful, even to the extent that it justifies (to the Church's mind, if to no-one else's) the sanctioning of HIV-AIDS denial and lying about condoms.
Yes. Bogumils, Cathars. (Who may have only been the biggest and most lasting in multiple waves of schism/anti-homosexual-campaigns). *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Anyway, if we focus on the Bible Belt for a moment, where's the "specificity" of homophobia. There's a pretty vehement history, only 40 or so years in the past, of picking on other minorities too.
And we can see there clear historical reasons (including the size of the prominent racial minorities and external pressures for change) that explain why "gay right" hasn't progressed there as "quickly" as for some other minorities.
One key issue however is that there's a string of homophobic lines through the Bible that maybe made it easier (back in the 14th century) to start a movement using gays as a target group:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh3.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/hombiblnt.htm
I would suggest that there are fewer lines that are as easily used to justify racial intolerance, largely because:
The "Middle East" area, sat between Africa and Europe was an area where people of many skin tones lived and mixed. There wasn't the homogeneity to promote a full on "pick on those people who look different" ideology.
Of course the "Dutch Reform Church" did construct a Biblical case for apartheid, but that came quite a bit later on. I'd argue that is possibly because it's much harder work.
Of course, since we're speculating, I've also read that the crusade against homosexuals started in the medieval era from political roots, because a few politically powerful church orders had a lot of gay members and those who opposed them found this a handy way to attack them. But that was in a book that has long since passed from my possession, so I can't quote anything useful.
But for whatever reason, the records we have of populist preachers stirring up the masses largely seem to include genuine quotes from the Bible.
Your 14th C parish priest could actually make up anything most of the time, because the unwashed weren't allowed near the "source material."
But, in the end, if we're talking about a movement as widespread as Frank is suggesting, then it had to draw legitimacy from somewhere, and people's mindspace was "The Bible" to a large extent, as far as we know about those times.
Also, for a long time even a lot of clergymen were illiterate in latin and the introduction of the missal made it unnecessary even for priests to read the bible. When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
And threatened rape. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
More to the point, it seems to me that a lot is being made of what could be a relatively few cases of gay marriage overseen by the "Church" during a very long time period and over quite a large geographical area. Yet, we seem to ignore, more or less, the clear statement that a union between persons of the same sex was illegal (by the Church?) from the time of the Roman Empire. Maybe the few documented cases were truly just aberrations of a particular time and place. Of course this is just my supposition. I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears