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This is an address given by Boswell. He dates it to about the 12th C. Isn't that about the time that Rome, together with the Pauline tradition of hating humans, is consolidating its power over the Church?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 10:34:36 AM EST
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Indeed. To make the connection explicit, homosexualism was propagandistically associated with the big 'heretic' movements, especially Bogumils and Cathars.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 11:39:11 AM EST
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Precisley what I had read.

After the 3rd century there weere up and down regarding homosexuality perception in society, in the Roman elites and in the plebe.... sometimes one hierarchy or group of people support it or like it.. sometimes not... it changed quite a lot.

It was for sure that way until the 6th-7th century where some  kind hole of social knowledge appears regarding  a lot of social perceptions, but I took for granted that it probably was more or less like during the roman times... it changed with the wind, and teh area...

But during the cathar push and other heretic movements, homosexuality was fixed as something permanently bad (if maybe not prosecuted, I do not know enough). And I think the first clear documents appear then (or that's what I guessed from what I read)

then it was certainly prosceuted by the spansih inquisition.. together with red-haired powerful woman.

So it was strange to read that it was otherwise. But I think anotehr diary commented that good perception of homosexuality was confused with good perception of male bonding in some eastern areas durign the 18th century.

In other words, a comment to say ,that we probably have similar sources.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 at 03:48:05 AM EST
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Thanks for this link - I quote from it below

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 06:51:53 PM EST
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