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5:45 !!!! Wow, I never did that ever.

Wales is a different country but Labour are gonna get creamed in England. Brown can say what he likes, the 10p thing wasn't an isolated aberration, but has been taken by a lot of people to be emblemetic of his indifference to anybody but the super-rich. Amazingly people will protest by voting Tory, a party that is even worse.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:14:32 PM EST
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Well in my polling station I was faced with a choice between Plaid and Lib Dem. I don't think the plaid candidate liked my question the other day of what's the difference between the Welsh nationalist party and the British national party?

The Lib dem candidate managed to get bonus points by stopping to give me a lift towards home just as it started to hail.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:35:05 PM EST
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We couldn't get enough people to stand to cover all wards.  Which incidentally is how at least one BNP councillor now exists in Wales because they stood unopposed and got elected.  How the fuck did that manage to happen?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:42:05 PM EST
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That is a colossal failure, letting that idiot get through.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 05:03:36 PM EST
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During an election campaign a candidate is not allowed to buy anthing in case they be accused of buying votes.

One of my friends said it was great cos he wasn't allowed to buy a round for an entire month. Giving you a lift is surely a favour in kind....you've been bought.

I like the plaid question.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:42:52 PM EST
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several years ago I was living in a community based round a house. which included a couple living in a caravan, and a couple of others living in a battered old ambulance. one of the local tories was running a campaign of intimidation against us through the council and the local papers. however he lived two villages away, and we were very popular in our local community for various reasons once the local  community matriach got to know us.

just before an election  where there was a combined Plaid/green candidate standing for MP we had our regular visit from the council planning department to tell us to move the lived in vehicles. During the conversation the council official asked if we were voting. having said yes he asked whether it was Plaid/green we would be voting for, having said yes, he said that if we went round and put a load of Plaid  posters up, then he'd leave us alone for six months which was as long as he could put off an inspction without being obvious.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:58:34 PM EST
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Labour will get knocked down in Wales too but I really hope we keep our councillor.  I very much doubt we will get control of our county council back.  Brown's recent actions and comments will hurt us.

I think the campaign has done me good, whether we win or lose.  I've seen all areas of my community, how people live, the issues they are facing. It's reaffirmed to me how incredibly selfish that the wealthier sections of the ward are.

It's reminded me of some of the most basic things that I spend my job fighting over - things like literacy, standard of living, poverty, racism, equality - but often never 'see' it for myself and recently I have.  

When I was leafletting today a man came out of his house and said to me "who's the coloured man?" (I realised he meant our candidate) I told him the name. Then he showed me the leaflet I'd put through the door and asked me to show him where the name was on there because he wanted to vote for us. He couldn't read.  He wanted to cast his vote but couldn't read to do so.

How do you exercise your democratic rights properly without basic literacy?  Here in Wales we have a very pro trade union Government, very pro social justice, investing a lot of money in our basic literacy and numeracy courses and other courses for upskilling workers and we are lucky to have that. Under a tory Government that funding would no doubt be heavily if not completely cut.  I do often think that if people think things are bad under Labour they'll get a horrible shock if the Tories make it back in.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:40:12 PM EST
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How do you exercise your democratic rights properly without basic literacy?  Here in Wales we have a very pro trade union Government, very pro social justice, investing a lot of money in our basic literacy and numeracy courses and other courses for upskilling workers and we are lucky to have that. Under a tory Government that funding would no doubt be heavily if not completely cut.  I do often think that if people think things are bad under Labour they'll get a horrible shock if the Tories make it back in.

If only we had a labour party in Westminster that understood its obligations so clearly.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 04:45:41 PM EST
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Unfortunately it's being paid for by shorting the funding in senior schools. I can think of three local senior schools which are saying that they are going to have to ask for staff to take voluntary redundancy, and the capitation figure has been so low that books and stationary have been in short supply.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 05:01:21 PM EST
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That's interesting, I don't think I would have expected literacy to be much of an issue in the UK.  In most of Africa, including here, each party or candidate has a symbol that appears on both the ballots and the campaign posters, so one need not be able to read in order to mark one's ballot.  In some countries, the ballots also have a picture of the candidate, and/or a hand signal associated with the party.  (Example: in Zimbabwe, the ruling Zanu-PF party is a clenched fist, while the opposition MDC is an open hand.)  Those hand signals are also represented on the ballots.

In Jordan, the parliamentary ballots ALL seem to require that the voters write in the name of the candidate, there are no boxes to check, or at least there weren't in 2003.  I was puzzled by this and asked my colleague, "What about people who can't write?"  And she looked at me like I'd lost my mind:  "Nobody can't write."  Which is not actually true (Jordan's overall adult literacy rate is around 90 percent) but probably is fairly close to true in the urban areas and among the younger parts of the population.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 06:30:09 PM EST
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stormy!

I saw this and thought of you:

Face to Face | i love typography, the typography blog

Nadine Chahine is an incredibly talented Lebanese type designer with a very special interest in Arabic typography. She taught Arabic type design as a visiting lecturer at the American University in Dubai and then joined Linotype, Germany, where she is now in charge of Sales Marketing and Arabic-related projects. As of September 2007 she is also a PhD candidate and her topic is legibility studies for the Arabic script.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 06:59:34 PM EST
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Oooooohhh.... very excellent.  Thanks!
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 06:07:20 AM EST
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It's enough of an issue in areas like mine where there are higher proportions of immigrants and large pockets of poverty.  Also New Labour changed their symbol to a funked up rose that isn't very recognisable as a rose anymore so that doesn't help with symbol recognition.

Even with high literacy, are there not a lot of spoils where ballots are hand written?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:42:15 AM EST
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In Wales:
I do often think that if people think things are bad under Labour they'll get a horrible shock if the Tories make it back in.

Elections in the UK are lost, not won. They're popularity contests, not policy contests.

I'm not sure how many people have any sense of policy at all. Voting seems to be punitive, which makes it easy to manipulate results with scare stories and resentment journalism.

Oddly enough it's not usually explained that voting for greasy wobble-chinned public school crooks isn't going to do working people any favours.

It doesn't help that both of the main parties are now run by greasy wobble-chinned public school crooks. I'd guess that only confuses people.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 07:45:51 PM EST
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I have a list of people I want to punch.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:37:17 AM EST
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Need some help?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:41:53 AM EST
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Oh go on then, get everything out of our system!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:42:55 AM EST
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