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This is some interesting number crunching over at the Big Orange.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 05:44:42 PM EST
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Yeah, I saw that.  Poblano's been pretty damned good this year.  Better than the pollsters in Indiana, actually.

He's on the right track, but I believe he's underestimating Obama's potential with the white vote, and is therefore writing off states without great reason.  What he's really picking up on is that the demographics of the country are simply moving in a way that favors Dems over time.

He's writing some states off that I don't think the polling data supports writing off.  Montana, Alaska, Virginia, the Dakotas, Missouri, Texas, and the Carolinas jump out to me immediately.  As I said, Obama and McCain are tied in NC and VA, for all practical purposes, and the same goes for Montana, Alaska and Texas.  We haven't had a poll out of SC since late-February (McCain only +3 at the time), so I can't judge that one.

When I choose my pick for The Big Possible SurpriseTM for the '08 election, there's a chance it might be Texas if this sort of thing keeps up.  Again, it's a majority-minority state.  Now, granted, whites in Texas are really white and a special kind of crazy, but you have a similar effect there to what you've got in places like Virginia, Georgia and North Carolina: At least one massive, diverse city that offers Dems an opening.  In the case of Texas, there are actually four such cities: Houston, Dallas-Ft Worth, Austin, and San Antonio.  If you can deliver massive turnout among Latinos and blacks, and then pick off those white suburbs around the big cities (one group to which Obama tends to sell very well), you've got a good shot.  Maybe no better than even, but good.

Peyote Bill, especially, could offer some serious help.  Sebelius, too.  Less so Kaine, whose appeal is really just a one-state thing, along with a little help given his roots in Missouri and Kansas.

And, anyway, Obama's kind of a cocky little shit, so Texas would make sense.

The real point -- and Poblano's made this before -- is that, properly executed (and, to their credit, the Obama team seems to do that pretty consistently), I think we can bust up a lot of states and end this duopoly that Florida and Ohio have over the country.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 06:07:52 PM EST
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Texas would be a surprise - and it would really hurt the Rs, because of (cough...) the narrative of it being a kind of homebase for that special kind of crazy the Rs do so well.

But it's going to depend on how much crap the Rs can find to throw at Obama. I get the impression the Rs don't really have a strategy. They'll be doing tooting on the dog whistle, but that's not going to do anything for the 60-70% of the population who aren't racist little thugs.

McCain has no chance with the AA vote, and that leaves his constituency looking bare. Evangelicals won't be inspired, the Money will vote dutifully but not very significantly in terms of numbers, so overall McCain is going to be lucky to get >45% of the total vote.

Obama's campaign so far has responded to attacks blindingly quickly, and I don't think McCain has either the smarts of the stamina to put up a convincing fight.

It's not too much of an exaggeration to suggest that all Obama has to do is be polite and reasonable and wait for McCain to lose his temper on TV.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 07:00:19 PM EST
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There are actually some signs of Evangelicals -- especially (who else?) younger ones -- moving in Obama's direction and focusing more on economic justice and the environment rather than the traditional Evangelical issues.  They're pro-life and generally against same-sex marriage, but those aren't their issues.  A hopeful sign.  I'm betting Catholics start moving in that direction again, too.  Abortion and gay marriage seem to be melting away from the national dialogue, for some reason, and being left as smaller issues for Republicans to tear each other apart over.

McCain's real problem is that any bit of ammo he's got to go after Obama is matched by much heavier artillery that Obama can use on McCain.  So Obama can say to him, "Alright, asshole, wanna run Wright commercials?  Great, let's introduce Catholics to Hagee and the country in general to Parsley."  McCain will be reduced to a stuttering idiot.

"My friends, I don't think Catholics are whores or that my wife is a trollop or a cunt."

"Elitism"?  McCain's got his own private jet.  End of story.

Even on the silly identity games, McCain is a lot more vulnerable.

It'd be great.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 07:27:12 PM EST
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I do think, by the way, he's probably right to think about black voters turning out in much heavier numbers than in 2004.  It will be A CauseTM in the black community.  Ditto Latinos, if Obama's got the money to pour into voter registration on them.  Richardson would help there, as would Kaine, who speaks fluent Spanish and is very popular with Latinos.  And I doubt very much that, with Obama planning to cap his maximum donations if McCain agrees (as he might be forced to by the press in order to avoid getting slammed with hypocrisy on the topic), money will be a terribly big issue.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 06:18:16 PM EST
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