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I would rec again http://www.eurotrib.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2008/5/10/94613/2429

there you can find that it is not about being stubborn, neither that they do not get the "facts".. or anything like that..
it is about narratives, and structural narratives...

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 04:48:29 PM EST
Neither it is about being ideologues. we are also ideologues...just that our structures to create ideologies come from a different set of structural narratives than theirs....

the only way to move these kind of people is by internal incoherence... or a general narrative overtake (which is much more difficult).

Luckily, you have a lot of people on the fence which do not have any particular knowledge of any narrative (neither enlightenment narratives).. you can convince them just explaining them one.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 04:51:39 PM EST
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Also, we're right about more things more of the time.

At least I hope we are.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 13th, 2008 at 04:30:47 AM EST
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we have a great track record on life and death issues :)... particularly war and enviromental effects (plus some kind of bacteria).

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue May 13th, 2008 at 11:53:29 AM EST
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