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Expert  (pron : Ex-spurt)
Ex - implies past tense
spurt -  a drip

Experts are people who know more and more about less and less, until they know everything about nothing.


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:41:03 AM EST
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What it this? Specialised Knowledge Scorn Week? Experts are essential: the danger is listening to them outside of their fields of expertise.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:46:09 AM EST
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It's better to be a dilettante: know nothing about everything and talk like you're an expert.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:52:40 AM EST
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Fucking experts, oppressing us with their detailed knowledge of a specialised area. I hate them.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:56:00 AM EST
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Expertise is a positional good.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:56:54 AM EST
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Absolutely, to such an extent that people will seek it out to improve their status among their peers.

That's why I go on beer tours with Helen - it's purely the status boost of hanging out with an expert.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:58:39 AM EST
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Now you're being provocative.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:03:22 AM EST
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That means no one is allowed be pissed off at me, doesn't it?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:04:42 AM EST
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No one ever is.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:12:23 AM EST
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Oh excellent. I'll refer them to you in future then.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:14:23 AM EST
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No, the danger is believing everything they say related to their fields of expertise simply because they are acknowledged as an experts.  The danger is in assuming "expert" = "objective."

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:58:30 AM EST
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That too. Though sometimes you need expertise to challenge experts usefully.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 10:59:35 AM EST
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Take Jerome, banker and PhD economist, challenging the economic conventional wisdom.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:04:37 AM EST
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Nanne offers useful meditation in his comment above.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:11:13 AM EST
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The danger is the same as with "economists", pundits, and business journalists: not that they talk outside their fields, but that what they have to say within them is bought and sold like turnips.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:07:20 AM EST
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Who are generally not experts, in point of fact. They're the guys who have hung around experts but never actually developed any expertise. Talk the talk, couldn't even find the path to walk on.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:08:41 AM EST
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So the guy from SciAm got it wrong, you can actually tell the difference between an expert and a fake if you're an expert?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:10:47 AM EST
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No, he said that as long as you keep away from doing the real thing you can't necessarily tell the difference. No maths questions, remember?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:13:27 AM EST
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Expertise should be measured by effectiveness, not by media noise.

And I'd like a pink pony.

Meanwhile in the real world, expertise is measured almost exclusively by media noise - at the big media scale, and also at the small science scale, where you can talk crap and still be published in peer reviewed papers, and you can have some original ideas which never make it past peer review.

So what is an expert, exactly? And how can you tell the difference (if you're not a chicken)?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:18:11 AM EST
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Pink's very hard to get stains out of you know.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:34:51 AM EST
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Is that an expert comment, a dilettante comment, or a think tank comment?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 02:08:50 PM EST
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I think it's a quote from Readers Letters in the Home Decor weekly. An entirely new category, I believe?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 02:27:17 PM EST
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Does that mean they're dilettantes?

I think I'm confused about who I'm supposed to be scorning.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:11:53 AM EST
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They're the ones the mass media tout as experts, they're the ones that get into the official agencies and government positions, and that's what matters to me. The rest is scholastics.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:14:33 AM EST
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