I would like to see a sense of civic pride in which everyone separates waste and recycles but I see that in Rome it is largely ignored- far beyond what is perfectly normal in the North.

It remains that sanctions are notoriously ineffectual in Italy. They are usually shot down quickly by the administrative tribunals or the upper courts.

What will happen is that as soon as organized crime has monopolized the market at an inordinately higher cost to the taxpayer, garbage will shrink to a tolerable level- only to be pulled out again when the mobs up the ante.

Even the official statistics and reports are cooked. In no way do they depict the real situation. It is why I feel that Italy and its products should be boycotted. The garbage in Naples is an Italian problem. The `Ndrangheta in Calabria or the Mafia in Sicily is an Italian problem. If Italy can't put its shit together, hit their exports.