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Sarkozy set to collide with culture of protest - International Herald Tribune

PARIS: Of all the things the French do their own way, what truly distinguishes their country from its counterparts in Europe or the United States has been the reality that its politics can be decided in the streets.

The notion and expectation that demonstrations and strikes can overrule policy is unique here.

And so is recent governments' fear of street protests along with the generalized idea that this kind of confrontation constitutes fairly normal procedure.

Specific grievances, settled with less clamor elsewhere, sometimes coalesce with deep troughs of dissatisfaction in France, and a glorified old reflex - call it nostalgie de la rue - can quickly mass crowds and create stoppages and violence without French democratic tradition providing a powerful contradictory brake.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 11:42:33 PM EST
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France.Is.Too.Doomed.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 01:51:20 AM EST
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An electorate that expects to be listened to?  

Where will it all end?

by Sassafras on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 02:06:53 AM EST
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Didn't they vote already last year? They're out of order until 2012.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 04:57:09 AM EST
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Oh, goody. Another article to mock and condescend at those who would disagree:

A national transport strike is set for Thursday, and after that, wider demonstrations are scheduled by teachers and students resisting reforms in the vast national education bureaucracy. A far-left leader with a growing audience has said he would like to see a general strike.
OMG, they are resisting 'reforms' of the national education 'bureaucracy'. Funny how there is no mention in this article of how this might effect 'education' itself, and what it might do to 'class sizes'. No, it is just 'reforms' of a 'vast bureaucracy'.

In contrast to May 1968, French students are more clearly divided now between idealists (or nihilists) ready to head for the barricades and those who want to take exams and think that France's state-oriented capitalism must be  overhauled.
But there is hope! Even famously pampered and strong headed French students are beginning to realize that one gets ahead by studying and taking ones exams and listening to ones elders and betters and not complaining. Yes, one must accept the inevitable 'modernization' of a horribly backwards country with an outdated social and economic model. Those that don't are nihilists. They need to restrain this glorified old reflex... But I hear France has very good riot police, so it may be alright after all.

He was elected president as a reformer and would lose all credibility at home if he wavered in his commitment to uproot France's conservatism, castes and comfort in living with a foot in the past.
Errahhghgghhh...
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 04:01:20 AM EST
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Actually, there is much less division than in 1968. There are no more idealist/nihilist students nowadays in France. Those protesting don't protest the system, they mostly don't want it to change. Not much talk about the alienation of a consumerist wage slavery society, halas...

What has clearly changed is that the media keep doing "he said/she said" reporting, giving a voice to the small minority of right wing students.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 04:20:31 AM EST
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linca:
Those protesting don't protest the system, they mostly don't want it to change.
Well, I think this is what makes them idealist/nihilist according to the IHT. They refuse to accept the much needed 'reforms' and 'modernization'. Changing the system is the point, thus those that are against it...
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 04:27:21 AM EST
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I was as much making my own point as responding to the IHT's. Radical criticism of the current social model is very much out of vogue - which makes such voices as the IHT's that much more credible.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 04:42:24 AM EST
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IHT:
The notion and expectation that demonstrations and strikes can overrule policy is unique here.

You hope.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 05:27:14 AM EST
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Apparently regicide is very effective in the long term.  I'd venture the only reason other nation's have trouble getting their leaders to respond to public pressure is a lack of fear.  Any French executive is acutely aware of his inability to survive (politically at the least) against public sentiment.  

Why this should be unusual in "democracy" is the real story.  Federalist Republicanism for the win?

by paving on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 01:30:36 PM EST
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