Just a note that I find much to admire about Barack Obama and, if he is the candidate, I will vote for him. But I don't see in him the innate tough leadership qualities that are required for a presidency ... I do see those traits in Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Chris Dodd, and even Joe Biden. I am supporting Hillary Clinton, and will support the Democratic nominee. I'm also disgusted by the media piling on Sen. Clinton. If Obama becomes the certain front-runner, he'd better be ready. It'll get ugly. But the above incidents do not assure me.
When Clinton rolls up to reveal that the Dem party has its own in-house insane racist side-show too, it's a little harder not to be disappointed - if only because it's hard not to wonder what else is hiding out of sight.
you are the media you consume.
OK, you supported Clinton over Obama - I came close to doing so as well. For those who don't remember the early stages of the campaign, Clinton tacked sharply left on domestic policy, Obama went right. I also have some sympathy for the idea that you want a tough partisan SOB rather than a 'beyond partisanship' let's all get along type. And finally, there was clearly far more sexism in the media directed against Clinton than racism against Obama. Plus, like I've said many times, I have no problem with women wanting to finally have a female president. But how you go from that sort of appeal and critique to ranting on about the scary black terrorist muslim left wing radical commie who's no good for good patriotic White Christian Americans so let's vote for McCain cause at least he's a real American who loves his country - I just don't get it. Her initial reasons for supporting Clinton and opposing Obama were the kind you'd expect from a partisan liberal democrat, now they're the crap from the cesspool of the American right.
Maybe they should all take up golf.
According to Janis, group cohesion will only lead to groupthink if one of the following two antecedent conditions is present: *Structural faults in the organisation: insulation of the group, lack of tradition of impartial leadership, lack of norms requiring methodological procedures, homogeneity of members' social background and ideology. *Provocative situational context: high stress from external threats, recent failures, excessive difficulties on the decision-making task, moral dilemmas.
*Structural faults in the organisation: insulation of the group, lack of tradition of impartial leadership, lack of norms requiring methodological procedures, homogeneity of members' social background and ideology.
*Provocative situational context: high stress from external threats, recent failures, excessive difficulties on the decision-making task, moral dilemmas.
In-bred stupidity? Maybe they should all take up golf.
Reads as a reference to all Americans.
Irrespective of that, I'm impressed by how little racism has impacted this campaign - it hasn't been effective outside of the proverbial 20% of Americans who identify as fundie nationalists and a few urban liberals who feel we need to stay away from Obama because all other Americans are racist hicks and won't vote for a black man.
But as for racism - I think when you have a presidential contender and her supporters deliberately and knowingly playing the race card, it's something that has had an impact.
It hasn't had the effect it might have had because Obama seems canny enough not to run on race explicitly. He's allowed Hillary and the Rs to do it for him, and it's given them enough rope to hang themselves with.
Even so - it's shocking to find the Clinton camp being so aggressively out of line on this.
I'd have hoped that in context it would have been obvious who I was talking about.
It wasn't, but thanks for the clarification.
I thought it would work a bit better. Instead this rhetoric from people like Susan Hu has been a sideshow. Maybe I'm just another urban liberal elitist.