Frank - we have very little influence over our daughters.  I like to think that some very small part of my Bohemian philosophy has transcended the generation gap, but it is mere wishful thinking. Basically we are the subjects of manipulation, as fathers. I listened today to the lyrics my youngest wrote for a demo for a record company we are about to sígn (and I say we, because she does not yet have majority), and I thought  Jesu H- Christ, I wish I'd said this.

ET members will be the first with the download. But just remember I am a manipulative son of a bitch.

You can't be me, I'm taken