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I'm reading a novel by Stefan Zweig who was well-known during his heyday. It seems that there aren't any current writers who are so universally known that their names are instantly recognizable even by those who are not in the literary milieu.

I'm thinking of names like Hemingway or Thomas Mann. Perhaps the market for "culture" has so broadened and the amount being produced is so great that no one can command the kind of attention that writers did when fewer works were published.

I'm interested in hearing nominations for "well-known" contemporary writers (not necessarily in English) that you think have this kind of stature.

 

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by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 05:26:02 PM EST
J.K.Rowling?

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 05:27:15 PM EST
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Stephen King? Tom Clancy? Danielle Steele? John Le Carre?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 05:29:18 PM EST
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Thomas Pynchon.  "Against the Day" is an unbelievable tour de force, and may well get him a Nobel.  A hairy roller coaster.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 07:03:17 PM EST
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Pynchon. oh yeah!

 I'm probably the only person I know who has read V and Gravity's Rainbow,  Except for a book dealer I know, whose place of worship is like 'Black Books', but 10 times more cramped with tomes.A little vertical mambo is required to reach his perch behind the till. I was there yesterday with surplus-to-requirement softbacks of the above-mentioned. He grabbed them immediately out of a bag of such no longer needed stuff such as Horses and horseriding (from 1928), Elvis, Whitaker's Almanac 1973 and humour books from Alan Coren and the like.  I could see in his eyes that he knew the Pynchon's well, and that acquisition of these softbacks was his chance to indoctrinate others ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 08:29:40 PM EST
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I first read "V" in 1966 in Tucson, I believe it was during the summer, after summer school at the U of A was out. I discovered "Gravity's Rainbow" at a periodical stand in West L.A. in the mid 70s. Glad to see there is another.  Something to look forward to reading when I get a copy.  I have always had a taste for the darker side of literature.  I suspect such tastes are mutually exclusive to those for, say, triumphalism.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 09:00:14 PM EST
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No there's three of us here, my Life was changed irrevocably when I was got an adult library ticket and could get 6 books from the adult section of the town library at the age of 13 being young My first six books were mostly 60's sci-fi some Heinlein and some Jack Vance, but also included, Pynchon's The crying of Lot 49 and Woolfes The electric kool-aid acid test. Things havent been the same since

I did find Gravitys rainbow hard, and it took me a couple of attempts to read it, but I was only about 14 at the time. and I didn't come across V till a few years later. MAson & Dixon is sitting on the unread section of my bookshelf waiting till i'm in the right mood to tackle it.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 10:04:09 PM EST
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I've found most of his stuff hard to read, not because the words or constructions were daunting, but because I was forever asking myself 'where is this going, what does it mean?'

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 10:03:07 AM EST
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ceebs:
No there's three of us here

Four.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 11:15:04 AM EST
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Five. Only read V though.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 11:48:23 AM EST
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slacker ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:10:05 PM EST
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Dan Brown.  The Da Vinci Code sold a bah-jillion copies.
by ATinNM on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 08:05:10 PM EST
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Oops.  

Scratch Dan Brown.  He is well-known but hardly in the same league with Hemingway and Thomas Mann.

Gore Vidal here in the states.  Maybe.  

by ATinNM on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 08:16:40 PM EST
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Of those contemporary authors mentioned only Pynchon compares in literary stature to Mann or Hemmingway, although they may well be much more widely read.

My nomination is "The Baroque Cycle" by Neal Stephenson: "Quicksilver," "The Confusion" and "The System of the World."  They are the only works I know that combine the "swashbuckling adventure" of 17th Century, mercenary adventurers, the development of the sinews of modern business and finance, English, French, Dutch and German court and society, Pepeys, Hook, Newton, Wren and the Royal Society, the American colonies, including Harvard and M.I.T, the original usage of "redneck," India, Egypt and Japan, etc. etc. I have some familiarity with many of these subjects and found no significant issues.  Stephenson creates believable characters and places them in appropriate historical context.  I think it is a natural for ET members who have not previously found it. I found it a compulsive read at around 2400 pp for all three volumes. We had just moved from L.A. to northern Arkansas.  The wife was a little annoyed.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 09:29:09 PM EST
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I've got the first two volumes of the Stevenson trilogy, but am unwilling to start into it till the third is securely waiting on my shelves. There's nothing I hate more than the wait between multi part novels. I do have a shelf full of partly completed epics, waiting for idle writers/publishers/printers who aren't adequately feeding my addiction.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 10:08:47 PM EST
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Of "completed" novel series available in the historical fiction category I recommend Patrick O'Brian's 20 novels based on the Aubrey-Maturin characters and set in the British Royal Navy of the early 19th century.  O'Brian's meticulous and wide ranging research bring the period to life.  Sadly, O'Brian died, so we will know no more of his characters further adventures.  

You are probably familiar with Frank Herbert's excellent Dune series, similarly "completed," but you may be unfamiliar with an older S.F. author, A.E. van Vogt and his Null-A series.  Van Vogt was a Holocaust refugee living in L.A. and active in the 40s and 50s.  He was a popularizer of the works of the Polish semanticist Count Alfred Korzybski, who developed what he called "non-Aristotelian logic" or Null-A. "Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-aristotelian Systems and General Semantics" is available on Amazon. "The map is not the territory" is perhaps his most widely known statement. I used to employ these concepts to confound uncomprehending managers by informing them that they were applying either-or logic to both-and situations.  (This scarcely does justice to Korzibski!)  What I find particularly interesting and ironic about the Null-A books in todays context is that they developed the theme of a persecuted minority possessing  extraordinary abilities who understood that their lives, individually, were less important that the survival of their kind. Today's suicide bombers come to mind.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:42:25 AM EST
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Salman Rushdie?
Vaclav Havel?
Alexander Solzhenitsin?
Gabriel Garcia Marquez?


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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 03:46:41 AM EST
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... and

Paulo Coehlo?
Umberto Eco?
Erica Jong?
Doris Lessing?
Günter Grass?

I am sure there are more.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 06:37:43 AM EST
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Try an experiment:
Pick one of the writers from either list and ask someone around you who the person is, and if they can identify them as a writer what they wrote.

Then do the same thing with Hemingway (or Dickens) and see what the response is. What I suspect is that there are just as many good writers these days (perhaps more) they just don't generate the same amount of cultural awareness since the market place for culture is so much broader.

There seems to be less of a consensus of what the cultural core  contains. This may even be a good thing - too much uniformity constricts creativity.

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by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 01:22:31 PM EST
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You know where I live, probably many would have no idea who Dickens is. Maybe Hemingway, butthey would know Eco. Coelho or Grass is. So, it depends which cultural area people belong too.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 01:30:48 PM EST
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How about Shakespeare or Madonna or Britney Spears?

This brings up the whole issue of popular culture vs the "classics". Perhaps I'll write something up about this, the idea of a core of knowledge that needs to be taught in schools has been a contentious issue in the US since the 1960's when Columbia University came out with its two year "Contemporary Civilization" course. Lots of schools adopted the text (which was just selections from the "core") and fights over what should be included have never ceased.

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by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 02:36:25 PM EST
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I guess people here heard about Shakespeare, read him - maybe a few. Madonna sure, Britney I would have to ask, but my guess not many have heard of her. You are mentioning primarily people of Anglo/English background, but they are not necessarily part of non-Anglo countries education. I remember that in English literatur we read Carson McCullen, but not Hemingway, and Oscar Wilde's 'The importance of being Ernest'. The rest I do not remember. Otherwise we were more focused on German literature and some French.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 04:36:34 PM EST
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