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As for wealth tax, I don't see the problem in a modest tax on wealth, say 1% per year. As "risk-free" government bonds should be able to beat inflation by 1% any reasonably productive asset should allow for a 1% wealth tax plus inflation plus a decent return. New worth of €1M already should provide enough income to match the GDP per capita in Europe so I cannot see any reason not to tax wealth.

The Wikipedia article on Wealth Tax claims the rate in Switzerland is progressive up to 1.5%, in various US states it varies from 1% to 4%, and in France the Solidarity Tax on Wealth taxes up to 1.8% for wealth above €750k (but the lowest nonzero marginal rate is .55% and the highest rate is only reached at €15M).

None of this seems "confiscatory".

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 01:13:53 PM EST
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For New worth read: Net worth, obviously.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 01:16:16 PM EST
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So you support my original thesis 100% ?
... not really, the middle class was born in a large chunk by productivity increase. Not by confiscatory taxes.

Why were you arguing in the first place?

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Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 01:40:12 PM EST
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I was arguing because "confiscatory" smacked of narrative framing, similar to the use of the expression "death tax".

I believe redistributive taxation played a huge role in creating the middle class, but I don't know my econometric or economic history to be able to back that assertion.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 05:10:47 PM EST
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The issue is that it hits the upper middle class. The cut-off levels are wrong and the imposition levels are wrong.

A proper asset tax will hit at, say, 10 millions euros at a few percents then at 100 millions euros with annual rates of 20%, etc.

The goal is to prevent anyone from amassing enough wealth to interfere by sheer economic power with the institutions.

Berlusconi would simply not exist in this system.

by Francois in Paris on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 06:04:43 PM EST
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