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Didn't mean to imply that no conservatives are honest about their concern for the poor. I'm sure that many of them are (even if they often have an ideological objection to doing anything worthwhile for the poor). I just argue that the theological justifications are usually rationalisations.

No party or society adheres to biblical ethics through and through. They always pick and choose the bits they like based on other criteria (cultural, ethical, political, tactical). Nothing wrong with that, of course, but please don't pretend that you're doing something else, or I shall have to drag out Leveticus, Judges and Revelations and quote you where it says that wearing mixed polyester-cotton clothes is a capital offence. Chapter and verse.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 03:55:58 AM EST
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This 'chapter and verse' religiosity is pretty American. Most Christians in Europe (but of course not all) know that historic context, background of the author, and the general spirit have to be taken into account.
The old testament is really beside a book to keep the history of the Isrealites a rulebook. But the new testament is about breaking the rules. It is about following the spirit of Jesus. And sure there is a lot of possible interpretation, but when asking the question 'What would Jesus (or a hypothetical person which can be characterised by the NT) have done in this situation', then I really can't see how anybody would answer, letting the poor starve.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 09:27:54 AM EST
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Well, we all know that Catholics don't read the bible anyway...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 01:00:07 PM EST
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"Chapter and verse" is a figure of speech. The point is that Christian theology is sufficiently diverse to permit you to justify any policy by appeal to some passage in the Bible, some famous theologian and/or your gut feeling of what the person you think Jesus might have been would have done in some situation. It is preposterous (and not a little presumptuous) to claim that this or that policy is "more Christian" than some other policy.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:27:33 AM EST
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For instance, we all know the Early Church was a protection racket:

BibleGateway.com: Acts 5:1-11

Acts 5

Ananias and Sapphira

1Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2With his wife's full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles' feet.

 3Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God."

 5When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.

 7About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8Peter asked her, "Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?"
      "Yes," she said, "that is the price."

 9Peter said to her, "How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also."

 10At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.



When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 08:58:12 AM EST
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