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For the first time in the history of American higher education, top professors are made wealthy by the system, commanding salaries and perks that a budding CEO might envy."

Uh, right. A handful of superstar profs do make great money if they're in the right fields, though we're really not talking CEO levels. However, even as regards the top universities academics make a smaller multiple of the median income than they did fifty, let alone one hundred years ago.

The point about disputes on such topics as the value of sexual abstinence, the role of religious charities in state-funded activities, the question of gay marriage, and the like, is that they are not framed to be resolved. Their political function is to divide the citizenry while obscuring class differences and diverting the voters' attention from the social and economic concerns of the general populace."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bullshit. They are no more or less designed to be resolved than economic issues. The fact that a part of the white population, particularly the white male and white southern one votes its racism, sexism, and homophobia is trotted out as an excuse to pander to those sentiments.

It should be noted that between a half and two-thirds of qualified voters have recently failed to vote, thus making the management of the active electorate far easier.

Not in presidential elections - the most recent one saw some sixty percent participation.

by MarekNYC on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 03:54:19 PM EST
That's 60% of registered voters, not qualified ones. Apathy in the U.S. is more likely to be expressed by people not bothering to vote. I'm always a bit puzzled by the 40% of actual voters who take the trouble to register to vote, and then don't bother to actually vote.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 05:10:50 PM EST
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Nope, sixty percent of the voting eligible population, or to be exact 60.32 percent. By eligible that means all people of voting age ex non citizens (8.45% of the voting age population) and people barred by the felon laws (about 1.5% of the VAP).

see US Elections Project

by MarekNYC on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 02:21:20 PM EST
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Thanks for the details. I was pretty sure I had seen similar percentages for registered voters, but either I was mistaken or I had read something in the MSM without being skeptical enough.

The figures may not be completely accurate, as they seem to be percentages of U.S. resident citizens, while voting figures include absentee votes. They seem to be aware of this problem, but so far haven't found a reliable way to apportion oversea votes to states, as the raw data is not available.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 08:22:46 AM EST
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The last election was a huge change from before, though.  Declining participation had been a feature of the system for quite a long time.  You would have been right ten years ago.
by Zwackus on Mon Jun 16th, 2008 at 06:46:34 PM EST
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Does that count the people who voted twice?

</snark>

- Jake

Your representatives may not listen to you. But they do read your e-mail.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 05:06:41 AM EST
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I had a feeling this sentence would cause some disagreement.  But it's odd that a professor that was lecturing in 1950 to Johnson (not a young guy himself) would be so out of touch with academia and it's changes.
"A handful of superstar profs do make great money if they're in the right fields, though we're really not talking CEO levels."

Did he not say top professors? and reference a beginning CEO?
Personally, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bullshit. They are no more or less designed to be resolved than economic issues. The fact that a part of the white population, particularly the white male and white southern one votes its racism, sexism, and homophobia is trotted out as an excuse to pander to those sentiments.

But is this not his point? They are all morphed into diversion, entertainment, --either petty conflicts elevated to the level of headlines, or really important issues either disappeared, or trivialized into oblivion, as a part of "managing" the discourse.
"Manufacturing consent" - Chomsky and Herman.
Where's the bullshit? Sounds like you guys agree on this at least.


Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 07:06:57 AM EST
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Did he not say top professors? and reference a beginning CEO?
Personally, I don't know.

Define top.  The average (mean) saleries for full professors at the very highest paid private research universities are on the order of 150-160K. Non econ superstar profs at such universities earn around double that. That's good money, but by CEO standards it's outright pathetic. And the superstar econ profs who will be earning two to three times that amount can up their (very high) salaries by quite a bit by going into the private sector.

Nobody in their right mind goes into academia to earn money. If you can get into a top rated Ph.D. program you can also get into a top rated law school. Assuming you do at least average there your starting salary will be the same as that of a tenured full professor at an elite private research university. If you actually manage to achieve the equivalent level of success in your field as one of those profs - i.e. making partner at a good firm, you'll be making a very solid seven figures. Let's not even start at the relative level of compensation in the financial industry.

by MarekNYC on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 02:42:37 PM EST
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Perhaps you're right- I am neither, nor do I wish to be, so it's outside my competence.
His point, however, is not outside my area of expertise. I haven't read the book- only the review- so I don't know more about it than Chalmers Johnson has said--but it's on my short list.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 02:28:34 AM EST
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I don't think it matters whether these people are really obscenely rich, though.

If their generally reasonable and non-hardship-inducing incomes are predicated upon their perpetual begging and groveling to the powers that be for grant and research money, and upon the production of a continuous stream of work that is considered "good enough" to be publishable, then one can see how they might be somewhat less antagonistic to the system then if they were in fact poor, and if their incomes were completely independent of the corporate power structure.

Or at least, that seems like the logical extension of his argument.

by Zwackus on Mon Jun 16th, 2008 at 06:49:27 PM EST
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