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There's a clear sense in which the Barroso-commission EU is economic-liberal. But to make some kind of monolith of "the West", and furthermore to see Britain, France, and Germany as engaged in the same process, is pretty tendentious. Britain went back to its free-market roots with Thatcher, continued by Blair. Germany did some liberalising under Schroeder, but it's not exactly the current flavour of the month. Sarkozy is certainly making plenty of noise about "reform", but how much will get done is a fair question.

But isn't "the West", in the Hungarian discourse, serving the same purpose as the Anglo world in neo-lib discourse in Western continental Europe? The place where everyone agrees that liberalisation is just the evident, natural thing to do, and look at the wonderful results?

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:26:41 AM EST
In the Hungarian 'left-liberal' discourse, as well as the dominant variant of Hungarian pro-EU discourse, yes, the West plays a similar role. Only it is wider, it's not just the economic reforms, but a package involving consensus-seeking, minority rights and such positives, too.

Regarding Britain, France and Germany, the governments of all three are using liberalising rhetoric (Merkel too, she won an election back when she made it the centerpiece, but she uses it even today, while using opposed rhetoric too), while all three go against it in practice with a routine. Lengyel's mistaken view is tendentious, but above all a rather typical superficial reading based on the (perhaps selective reading of) liberalising rhetoric - and its enhancement in media.

It's sad, really.

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by DoDo on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 11:54:03 AM EST
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The question is of course as well, what is the current frame of Hugary e.g. wrt maximum income tax, state quote, enterprise taxation... may be factors.

For Germany e.g.
maximum income tax: 47.5%, after Schroeder went down from 56% under Kohl to 44.3%, the Merkel gov increased it again
state quote: about 43% estimated for 2008 by BFM (after 46.8% in 2005)
less but close to 30% enterprise taxation


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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:22:19 PM EST
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