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By the way, what's up with Widmer-Schlumpf's SVP membership?

The last I could find was in April: defying the threats of the federal party that they will expel the Graubünden party branch if it doesn't expel Widmer-Schlumpf, the local branch refused, and voted down the motion on expelling her without counter-votes.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 03:42:33 PM EST
The Graubünden section, where she is from, refuses to expel here. Now the mother party is trying to expel the entire cantonal section. They are crazy. The section of Berne is also refusing to go along. I guess they fear that after Widmer they are going to go after Schmid the other SVP member of the Federal Council. The party is eating their own. But nothing has yet been decided.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 03:49:07 PM EST
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In such situations, two outcomes are possible. One is losing voters and disintegrating. The other is that the now uniformised rest-party is more focused than ever, and builds new local organisations that are 100% loyal.

In Austria, IIRC Haider did something similar with the Salzburg branch, which played out acording the second option, but later kicked his own party, which played out according to the first option.

Wat do the latest polls show, BTW?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 06:09:02 PM EST
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DoDo:
Wat do the latest polls show, BTW?
The only poll on Widmer, I could find, was the one I shown in the dairy, seems also to be the most recent one. The only other poll, is just one by a newspaper - baz.ch - Basler Zeitung Online
Hat Bundesrätin Widmer-Schlumpf noch Platz in der SVP?
But I think, this is again a poll of the general public and was taken early April. I do not really know who decides inside the SVP. Are these the regular party members or are these the board-members of the cantonal section. And could not find an SVP internal poll.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 10:24:06 AM EST
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Oh, sorry, I did not mean such a specific poll! Just a party poll, i.e. if any damage to the SVP is visible now.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 12:40:17 PM EST
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No, I haven't seen any internal party polls and my guess is, if they made one, they probably not going to publish it, especially if it should be negative.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 03:51:10 PM EST
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Still I failed to communicate it right. No, I mean is the simplest party choice poll, e.g. what is also called Sonntagsfrage in Germany at least.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 04:26:38 PM EST
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I never heard of the Sonntagsfrage before. Maybe thats the inconvenience of not having a tv. But I think I found what you were asking for. At least I hope so. :-) Sonntagsfrage | Mitmachen | www.sonntagonline.ch
Hat die SVP recht mit ihrem Vorgehen gegen Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf?
44.8 No against 55.2 Yes.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 04:49:13 PM EST
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Aargh, it 44.8 Yes and 55.2 No. :-(
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 05:02:15 PM EST
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No, Sonntagsfrage for Germans is Sonntagsfrage because the question they ask is, "What party would you vote for would there be elections next Sunday?"

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 05:06:35 PM EST
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Oh, so it is always the same question?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 05:08:06 PM EST
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Yes, I mean the simple party preference polls.

I tried to find a Swiss one on several occasions, but no luck. There was a series of polls called SRG-Wahlbarometer, but only before the elections.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 05:14:18 PM EST
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