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Guardian - Ban on hybrid embryos fails

An attempt to ban the use of hybrid human-animal embryos for scientific research was rejected in the House of Commons tonight. Voting was 176 to 336, a majority of 160, during the committee-stage debate on the human fertilisation and embryology bill

"debate" continues

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 03:37:35 PM EST
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Is there a party breakdown?

What worries me is that a NuCon majority would reverse those numbers, and we'd see the UK heading at best speed in the direction the US is about to reverse from.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 03:57:32 PM EST
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Reverse?  That'd be great.  Shit, I'd settle for stalling the momentum at this point.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 04:01:18 PM EST
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Yeah, but if we let the scientists do this, before you know it people will be sleeping with their pets.

Or something.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 04:00:21 PM EST
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it's gordo's secret plan to revitalise the flagging brit genome with a bit of rude hybrid vigour.

they thought that importing jamaicans would do it, but that didn't fly...

or swim, or something...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 06:15:07 PM EST
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Ouch.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 08:18:31 PM EST
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The amendment to ban saviour siblings was also defeated, with a majority of 179.

Next up, the needs for fathers, and the abortion limit. I personally haven't enjoyed the way either of those debates have happened in the press. The very fact that the people keen to defeat the amendment presented new evidence against the viability of pre 26 week births, is a real problem. They might win the battle, but they lost the (framing) war.

Now everybody will expect the limit to shift back and forth as new evidence concerning viability is produced. If they had talked about women's rights, and won on those terms, it could have saved the issue for a much longer time.

Member of the Anti-Fabulousness League since 1987.

by Ephemera on Mon May 19th, 2008 at 05:48:27 PM EST
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