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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:08:51 AM EST
From The Magazine : Radar Online
n the spring of 2007, a retired senior official in the U.S. Justice Department sat before Congress and told a story so odd and ominous, it could have sprung from the pages of a pulp political thriller. It was about a principled bureaucrat struggling to protect his country from a highly classified program with sinister implications. Rife with high drama, it included a car chase through the streets of Washington, D.C., and a tense meeting at the White House, where the president's henchmen made the bureaucrat so nervous that he demanded a neutral witness be present.
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According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, "There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived 'enemies of the state' almost instantaneously." He and other sources tell Radar that the database is sometimes referred to by the code name Main Core. One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:16:12 AM EST
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I'll be disappointed if I am not on the list.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:39:23 AM EST
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You will reverse that assessment once they begin torture.
by afox (afox at rockgardener dott com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 07:50:47 AM EST
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You say that like torture hasn't yet begun. I cite one Joseph Padilla...

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 09:14:59 AM EST
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yeah but, do you you ever wonder what it'd be like locking up the most aware, connected, informed, concerned 8 million americans with each other for company?

leaving a nation deprived of their brainpower, leaving it to the nutjobs, the nutjobs and the other kinds of nutjobs?

completely boggles the mind...

8 million is a lot of people

obama's gonna sort it.

if america gives obama the presidency, i bet it's the first time any nation's leader has shared two out of three names with two leaders of nations/forces presently at war with the voters' nation!

truth, odder than friction...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 11:05:37 AM EST
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There is no imprinting so deep as having a machine gun pointed in your face while you're in bed, where you tend to wake up at the highest level of fight or flight possible.  Being taken away from your life by the stupidest of people is not necessarily the best way to get ahead in the world.  It pissed me off no end.

Apparently, i survived.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 01:46:38 PM EST
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If the events to which you refer are matters of public record, please give me a link.  If you are at liberty to discuss I am all ears.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 03:17:11 PM EST
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My self image is not so grandiose as to imagine my being worth torturing.  Which of course does not mean they would't torture anyway.  Back in the mid 60s, when LBJ was escalating the war in Vietnam, I suggested organizing a national day of prayer to pray for him to have a heart attack.  I also composed a fantasy in which a special pipe was constructed for the organ at the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. At 14 cycles per second and sufficient sound pressure level resonances are created in the body cavity that typically cause loss of sphincter control. I thought it would be perfect for use during a contemporary "Te Deum" for victory in Vietnam, especially  if attended by the President, the Cabinet and Congress  You could say I was alienated. However, unless I was ratted out by one of my grad school drinking buddies...Well, one did go on to become Director of the Bureau of Trade Statistics, where he served from the Nixon to the Clinton administration, now sadly and prematurely deceased.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:40:33 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Africa | S Africa 'will protect migrants'

South Africa's government has pledged to protect foreigners threatened by a recent outbreak of violence that has forced 13,000 to flee their homes.

Officials also said the country would not deport migrants without documents during the current period.

The attacks began a week ago north of Johannesburg, before spreading to the city and surrounding areas.

At least 23 people have been killed, and ministers have been discussing using troops to quell the violence.

On Tuesday police fired rubber bullets to disperse a crowd in one suburb during a crackdown on the violence.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:21:20 AM EST
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BBC might be conservative. Estimates are already up to 20.000 displaced...

Protecting foreigners eh?

Sowetan - News

The Department of Home Affairs said yesterday it was assisting thousands of foreign nationals to leave the country immediately.

"Field workers are working round the clock in affected areas helping to process papers for those who are ready to go back to their countries. We are doing this so that they do not have any problems at the different borders," spokesman Mantshele Tau said.

But, Tau could not say exactly how many foreign nationals had come forward because the department officials were still registering people daily.

As I wrote last evening, Gauteng has gone through another restless night. I found this disconcerting piece this morning:

Star

A large gang of Durban taxi drivers turned on two men from the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) at the Clermont taxi rank in the city centre on Tuesday.

The informal traders were approaching the rank when the men shouted at them and demanded to know if they knew the isiZulu word for elbow, indololwane.

The French-speaking men were surrounded by the drivers and one was severely beaten. The other got away.

Gabriel Rashidi, 18, who escaped, said he arrived in South Africa two weeks ago after his family was killed by rebel forces when he refused to join their ranks.

One taxi driver said they had turned on foreigners because they had been spurred on by events in Johannesburg.

"We do not want foreigners here. They must go back to their countries," he said.

The man accused the foreigners of selling drugs and being criminals.

This was the second such attack in KwaZulu-Natal in the past four days after three Mozambicans were attacked at the Cato Crest informal settlement, in Cato Manor, at the weekend.

Again with the narrative... This is indicative that these sentiments are now beginning to spread south into KwaZulu-Natal.

by Nomad on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 02:54:39 AM EST
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Middle East in nuclear race to match Iran | World news | The Guardian

Almost every country in the Middle East has announced nuclear energy plans in the space of less than a year, in response to Iran's dramatic progress towards atomic power, it was reported yesterday.

Iran's pursuit of uranium enrichment in defiance of UN security council resolutions has increased tensions with the US. Yesterday, Israel army radio reported that a senior US administration official told the Israeli government during last week's presidential visit that George Bush and Dick Cheney still intended to mount military action against Iran.

The White House dismissed the report, saying it remained committed to diplomacy and economic pressure to force Iranian compliance.

Iran's success in enriching uranium, which Tehran insists is purely for peaceful energy generation, has caused anxiety in Israel, which has an undeclared nuclear arsenal, and across the Arab world. Between February 2006 and January 2007, twelve Arab states and Turkey declared their interest in developing nuclear energy .A report by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) said the resurgence of interest brought with it the risk of a "proliferation cascade" of nuclear arms across the region.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:29:42 AM EST
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At this rate in ten years there will be enough nukes from Egypt and Turkey to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to trigger a nuclear winter and the Treaty of Versailles will finally turn out to truly have been A Peace to End All Peace as described by David Fromkin


As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 01:11:48 AM EST
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Sorry, I seem to be having trouble embedding the link to Amazon and the hour is late.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 01:13:12 AM EST
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U.S. House passes bill to sue OPEC over oil prices - Forbes.com
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved legislation Tuesday allowing the Justice Department to sue OPEC members for limiting oil supplies and working together to set crude prices, but the White House threatened to veto the measure.

The bill would subject OPEC oil producers, including Saudi Arabia, Iran and Venezuela, to the same antitrust laws that U.S. companies must follow.

The measure passed in a 324-84 vote, a big enough margin to override a presidential veto.

The legislation also creates a Justice Department task force to aggressively investigate gasoline price gouging and energy market manipulation.

"This bill guarantees that oil prices will reflect supply and demand economic rules -- instead of wildly speculative and perhaps illegal activities," said Democratic Rep. Steve Kagen of Wisconsin, who sponsored the legislation.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:58:36 AM EST
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Think I'll get some coffee, I can't be reading straight.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 03:02:23 AM EST
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Of the 84 sane ones, only two were Democrats (Hank Johson and Nick Lampson). Of the presidential candidates, Kucinich voted yes, and Paul didn't vote.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 03:32:19 AM EST
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I don't know if coffee helps with some of the incredible news today. Maybe Cognac or Wiskey might be more helpful in this circumstance. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:05:16 AM EST
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LOL. The US is so stupid. What are they going to do? Seize the assets of sovereign wealth funds? Let's see if we can get money flowing out of the US even faster!
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:09:23 AM EST
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The US congress is NOT stupid.  Don't you remember when they helped save the world by changing the name of french fries to Freedom Fries?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:33:35 AM EST
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No, what they're gonna do is collect a coalition of the idiots and launch a punitive invasion to overthrow the dictators so that when the local oppressed populations greet them with rose petals they will gladly help the Americans remove all the oil.

It has already worked very well in Iraq, will work brilliantly in Iran, so why not ....?

The US govt is showing signs of becoming mad with imagined power. Nuclear weapons are not bargaining chips for resources cos radioactive oil ain't no good.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 06:29:57 AM EST
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Nuclear weapons are not bargaining chips for resources cos radioactive oil ain't no good.

write it in the sky helen, they don't get it yet-

oh, wait, you just did!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 11:09:03 AM EST
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Fran:
The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved legislation Tuesday allowing the Justice Department to sue OPEC members for limiting oil supplies and working together to set crude prices, but the White House threatened to veto the measure.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

LOL.

Er.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 05:50:18 AM EST
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This is from AFP, in an article about oil price increases:

"Pour certains scientifiques (notamment les membres de l'ASPO, Association for the Study of Peak Oil), la production mondiale de pétrole atteindra un pic à une date qui fait débat et connaîtra ensuite un inexorable déclin."

Which translates to
"According to some scientists (in particular the members of ASPO, Association for the Study of Peak Oil), the world oil production will reach a peak at a date that is the subject of some debate, and will then inexorably decline."

So, to all those who tell me that when people dispute peak oil they merely dispute the fact that a major, irreversible peak in price will completely dismantle the economy, I invite them to read that sentence again. It's said that the idea that PRODUCTION will peak at some point is merely according to some scientists. Even though it is a trivial mathematical fact provided that oil extracted in any given year is never less than oil recreated from decomposition of organic matter.

The article in French is there: http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/20052008/202/le-petrole-s-approche-du-seuil-des-130-dollars-le.html

It also quotes a banker pretty much implying that the idea that real availability constraints will appear in the coming few years is complete fantasy.
And so I maintain that the level of denial goes beyond the difficulties to adapt to the decline of production, what's being denied is also the indisputability of said decline.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 03:52:04 AM EST
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Oil price forces American Airlines to scrap 75 planes | The Guardian | 21.05.08
The rocketing price of a barrel of oil has prompted American Airlines to make swingeing cuts to its aircraft fleet, workforce and timetable in a sign of the severity of the cost storm gathering over the global aviation industry.

The world's largest airline intends to scrap 75 planes and will reduce the number of seats available on domestic routes by between 11% and 12% this year. An unspecified number of jobs will be lost from AA's 85,000-strong payroll as the airline closes and merges facilities.

The downsizing is AA's sharpest since the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001. On Wall Street, the company's shares plunged by 16% to a three-year low of $6.93.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 03:10:54 PM EST
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