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but maybe you will see one of these films and say, "WTF was that supposed to be about?"

Well, I watched 4, and am full of such questions...

  • What's the symbolic significance of the four trucks that appear three times?

  • Who hanged him/herself(?) when the girl is leaving the puppetmakers' forbidden village?

  • Who are the Iron Monsters Zoya's boyfriend constantly babbles about? (And why is the village forbidden military area - unless it has to do with the clone experiment? Or the bigs? Or both?)

  • What is the significance of the two versions of the girl in thre train, with two versions of why she is leaving town? (My lame guess is: that it doesn't matter, the City is bad for health)

  • What was that between Marina and Zoya? And in the opening, are the other two asses those of the four sisters, in which case I'm confused about the timeline, or 'clients'?

  • Was the piano tuner framed or did he really commit something (in case it's that I missed some details); or it doesn't matter?

One thing I thought I 'got' in the film was countering the rural-urban counterpoint of the traditionalists by following up urban desolation with a brutally unsentimental picture of even worse rural desolation.

PS: don't tell me the old woman who always ran shouting wasn't Terry Jones from Monty Python!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 09:58:48 AM EST
those of the four sisters

those of the rest of...

And, by the way: was the meat business guy's father, and the train passengers, manifestations of Sovokism?

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 10:11:06 AM EST
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  1. "The leitmotif of of the number 4 - clones, dogs, piglets, dolls, sisters, prostitutes, etc. provides commentary on everything from mass production to alienation and ultimately, I believe, the valuing of life, human and non-human."  is what I said before.  Why 4?  I don't know.  But the effect of the clone story in the beginning (is it true?)  is a feeling of being creeped out by anything identical in multiple numbers.  It's a damnation of conformity  - I think.

  2.  The pupper maker guy, right?  Yes.  

  3.  Oooh, is he just mad?  I thought the clone experiment took place in a forbidden military area but didn't realize the village was also one.  Well, you assume the guy was making up the story at the bar, but get the feeling this is the village, Iron Monsters are the military, the sisters are the clones!  

  4.  I don't remember.  She's leaving the city to attend her sister's funeral, though.

  5.  I don't think those were sisters, but other prostitutes.  Zoya is a the dead sister, right?  

  6.  I think he was being framed or punished randomly for something.  I don't remember the details, but do remember thinking it was unjust what he was being punished for...

  7.  Yes!!! Rural=decayed, disturbing, past, creepy, etc.  A prize for you!  


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by poemless on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:04:41 PM EST
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  1. Re Iron Monsters = military, by brain is dead... We are told about military area because of the scene in the train (below) and then the crossed barbed wires.

  2. In the doubled train scene, the co-passengers who are eating in a semi-disgusting way, ask her where she's going, and upon her reply ask what she wants to do with the military? In version 1, she answers her doctor sent her there to shoot grenades, because that is so exciting it gets her off heroin. In version 2, she answers that her therapist sent her there because it helps her get away from depression and suicidal thoughts. (The foods the co-passengers are pushing into their mouths are also different between the two versions.)

  3. He seemed to be accused of throwing a girl (who looked like Marina) out of the window, based on the testimony of a neighbour. But, thinking further, I believe this and the next scenes with the piano tuner are illustrations to the point of the aquarium cleaner, that names don't matter, and you are this one day and that another - then, indeed he was framed.

  4. One to the Orthodox, too.


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by DoDo on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:42:37 PM EST
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