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We've been talking a lot in recent weeks about the problems caused by biofuel production in terms of high commodity food prices. But what would the effect of eliminating biofuel be on the oil prices given the tight market?  I have some sort of vague recollection of reading somewhere that 2008 would see 2mbe/d of total biofuels - is that correct? And how much oil is used in biofuel production over and above the amount needed to produce the food? I.e. what is the net contribution of the biofuel industry to 'oil' production.
by MarekNYC on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 05:02:26 PM EST
US production of ethanol this year os close to 600,000 b/d, so with Brazil and Europe, you should not be too far off.

Which means that these volumes, however small, are enough to be absolutely necessary to eusure the balance of the market.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 06:07:23 PM EST
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The yield in energy produced for energy consumed by the production is very good for sugar cane in Brasil.  The concern there is about the ecological effects of creating vast new mono-culture plantations. Ethanol from corn is a different story and the yield is only slightly positive and the whole industry is often characterized as largely a boondoggle for corn farmers and agrabusiness.

Research is being undertaken, mostly at the university level, to produce ethanol or biodiesel from cellulosic feed stocks such as switchgrass, which is very fast growing and will grow well on land not suitable for crop agriculture.  Such land is abundant in Arkansas, eastern Oklahoma and other areas, The primary requirement being  30" or more of rain per year.

The holy grail of this research may well be identification or creation of biological processes for  rapidly digesting cellulose.  Termites have microbes in their gut that perform this function.  Good news/bad news: this approach may produce affordable fuels/it may involve genetically altered organisms or synthetic organisims.  It may also be a process that can be retrofitted to at least biodiesel refineries and it may be available relatively soon--3-5 years.

Sorry for the lack of references.  I am starting to keep track of significant items that can be used in ET comments and posts, but am not there yet.    

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 09:02:11 PM EST
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A much better answer to your question can be found in Migru"s May 6 Biofuels Occasional series. See especially Magnifico's blog.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 12:48:46 AM EST
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