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Fuelling fears over high energy costs

Energy prices are rising faster here than anywhere in Europe, MPs were warned.

Customer champion Energywatch blamed rocketing bills on lack of competition - 10 years ago there were 20 energy firms vying for business, now there are just six.

Energywatch chief Allan Asher told the Commons Business and Enterprise Committee: "There is a myth about vigorous price competition between suppliers.

"For the product they most actively sell - direct debit for 'dual fuel' gas and electricity - the price difference between the cheapest and the most expensive is about £30 a year, a few pence a week."

What's funny here is that if you had perfect competition, prices should be identical between all suppliers (in theory).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 12:32:40 PM EST
I'm pretty sure there was a letter in the Guardian about the stupidity of the British energy market only recently.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 12:55:50 PM EST
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But, as you know, there's really no such thing as perfect competition.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 12:58:58 PM EST
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That's why we need more reform, more sacrifice, more privation, more flexibility.

Forward comrades into the glorious free-market dawn of the ever-generous capitalist revolution!

I'm not even sure if this is irony any more.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 07:41:12 PM EST
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(pounds left side of chest with right fist)

England Prevails.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 07:46:33 PM EST
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I dont understand the thinking of British policy makers.

They see a problem created by policy and instead recommened MORE of the same to solve it. Its like using petrol to put out a fire!

Of course, the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

by EvilEuropean (evileuropean@googlemail.com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 01:25:42 PM EST
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Yes, but when you have drunk so much neo-liberal kool-aid that you still think that the White House is a repository of widom and the only useful function for the British Government is to joyfully anticipate every whim of the US president, then it all makes so much sense.

It's the reason why the Labour party will get its backside kicked in the Crewe By-election tonight and will lose the next election, the irony being that the alternative is genuinely worse.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 02:05:08 PM EST
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Could you supply any evidence that anyone in the Labour leadership actually believes "that the White House is a repository of widom [sic]" ?

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 03:56:32 PM EST
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Marketism is just like communism. It is always right. If reality doesn't match what the orthodoxy says, then reality is wrong.
by Francois in Paris on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 03:25:38 PM EST
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They are both axiomatic systems that assume their premises.  This allows both to make facile deductions that are favorable to their respective views of the world.  This is similar to Christian theology. This gives both a "feel" that makes them more plausible to their target audiences. Marxism has the advantage in internal coherence.  Liberal and Neo-Liberal Economics have the advantage in direct appeal to the vanity and self interest of the wealthy.  When adopted by governments, political entities or social organizations each spends considerable effort delegitimizing any criticism of the assumptions, which is where all axiomatic systems are most vulnerable. IMHO, in the US the similarities in axiomatic structure between fundamentalist Christian theology and Neo-Liberal Economics rallies fundamentalists to the support of Neo-Liberal Economics when it's axioms are attacked.  I suspect they have come to view the "Invisible Hand" as the Left Hand of God.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 04:11:29 PM EST
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Didn't Einstein also say "if experiment hadn't confirmed my theory I would have felt sorry for nature because my theory is correct"?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 04:30:30 PM EST
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Einstein had a sense of humor.
by Francois in Paris on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 04:42:51 PM EST
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EvilEuropean:
I dont understand the thinking of British policy makers.

Thinking?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 05:23:28 PM EST
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