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Is this another example of the main two parties triangulating each other to the point where one doesn't know who's right and who's extreme right any longer?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 28th, 2008 at 06:07:41 PM EST
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No. In public, Fidesz is definitely very much on the left economically.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 04:24:26 AM EST
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So this diary is showing that that's just a hypocritical stance to get votes?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 05:01:55 AM EST
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Yes. But Dr. Minorka reminded me that Orbán also suggested no reneging on two key points.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 05:14:28 AM EST
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Fidesz is definitely very much on the left economically.

I mean, apart from occasional rumblings about tax cuts, and being left behind by the economic miralces of our (flat-taxing) neighbours.

Also, since it wake up from the shock of the leak, the Fidesz spin machine geared up. They began to issue rhetoric to the tune that "Orbán said nothing we won't back in public", but of course with lots of added nuance. (So now Orbán says that subway lines are necessary, lots of them, only cheaper - well, yes, with that I totally agree.) And thus rhetoric about actives and the middle class is back in their repertoire.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 05:40:44 AM EST
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gotta love the region's politics. Poland's closest equivalent - the twins, are actually a bit more genuine in their economic populism in the sense that they have zero interest in economic policy.  Their party does include some with a neoliberal slant, though less than there used to be. It also has plenty who genuinely detest neoliberal policies. In their recent stint in power, they didn't come anywhere near to implementing the full spectrum of their anti-neoliberal campaign promises, but they certainly shifted things to the left from the previous 'left' i.e. post communist government.

The SLD incidentally are the folks who tend to be the most cynical in the contrast between left wing populism and neolib/kleptocratic policies. The PO - that is the hardcore neoliberals who are currently in power, have wound up governing to the left of their opposition era rhetoric - the practical consequences of having the PSL (Peasant Party) as a coalition partner.

Or in other words you've got three main political forces in Poland - the two post-Solidarity groupings, one center left on economics, very right wing on other stuff, the other very right wing on economics and center to center left on other matters. Then there are the post communists who are left on non-economic matters, technically center left on econ, in reality center right.

The Law and Justice camp is also riven between its mainly Pilsudkist leadership (interwar version, not the turn of the century Marxist national liberation incarnation) and a strong Endek (Polish fascist tradition) faction in its rank and file.

by MarekNYC on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 09:56:28 AM EST
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