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to be fair, kos is correct to point out that those old time political machines are also good at simply getting out the vote when they put their mind to it.
by MarekNYC on Tue May 6th, 2008 at 11:51:23 PM EST
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Yes.  And that's why politicians fall all over themselves to court their favor.
by ATinNM on Tue May 6th, 2008 at 11:56:28 PM EST
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Holy fucking shit: Turnout in Gary was somewhere between 85% and 95%.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue May 6th, 2008 at 11:58:16 PM EST
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Ditto on the HFS, there good buddy.

That's .... unheard of.

by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:18:06 AM EST
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That's just Kos's math.  I don't think he has it right.

If he does, something fishy's going on.  That, or black folks really showed up.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:20:46 AM EST
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Apparently East Chicago which is next door to Gary also has a strong traditional party machine - except it's Latino and going for Clinton.
by MarekNYC on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:21:54 AM EST
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Good point.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:26:14 AM EST
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Live Indiana Primary election blog

The first totals from Lake County,
316 precincts out of 561 reporting.

Almost all of Gary and Merrillville and portion of Munster primarily make up these numbers, plus Lake Station, East Chicago:

Lake county
Democratic candidates
President of the
United States
Barack Obama 46,759
Hillary Clinton 25,100



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:28:28 AM EST
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So the question is: has he peaked or will the rest of the county follow?

(Good Morning, ceebs :)

by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:34:03 AM EST
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well I did manage 2 hours sleep ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:35:29 AM EST
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and the gap is down to 16,000

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:39:07 AM EST
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I'm afraid it's going to be no sleep for me.  I've got three hours before the alarm goes off.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:45:52 AM EST
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you wake up for work at 4?
by MarekNYC on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:51:32 AM EST
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Yeah.  3.30 usually.  It normally takes me a few cups of coffee and a few cigarettes to get moving, so I like to get up extra early.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:55:20 AM EST
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Both you and Drew are young, vigorous, and full of it.

Vim & vinegar, I mean.  ;-)

(Anyone else having a hard time loading ET?)

by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:51:35 AM EST
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Jesus.  Lake County, IN, come in please.  We need votes!

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:03:52 AM EST
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Exciting, isn't it?

This is why I love elections.  The whole thing comes down to boots on the ground getting your people to the polls.

by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:11:02 AM EST
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or freezing your ass off and feeling bad for blanketing little old ladies with evening calls. Or at least that was my experience this year. Then again my guy got trounced.
by MarekNYC on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:12:20 AM EST
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Clinton wins Indiana.  99% reporting.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:14:16 AM EST
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That too is part of the game.
by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:17:29 AM EST
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99% clinton projected the winner.

About 21,000 difference.

by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:13:55 AM EST
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Thank God.  And with that, gentlemen, I am off to grab a couple hours of sleep.  'Night.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:16:28 AM EST
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Good Night Drew.  Marek, ceebs, & the rest of you I'm off to bed as well.
by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:20:56 AM EST
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No Stamina ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:44:54 AM EST
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you got em, it's over, she won. Over 20,000 with 99% counted.
by MarekNYC on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 01:14:49 AM EST
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Clinton's lead cut to 16,609

Hold onto your hats

by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:36:50 AM EST
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I didn't know that.  Thanks Marek
by ATinNM on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:29:47 AM EST
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Here's where it really changes things tonight: As Chuck Todd pointed out, even if you toss Florida and Michigan in, Obama's still going to win the popular vote.  That argument -- the strongest one she had -- is now done.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 12:32:48 AM EST
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Yeah, he's definitely right.  I think that rescued Obama in Evansville.  Might be the margin if he wins.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue May 6th, 2008 at 11:56:47 PM EST
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