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Another issue is the question, if personal or not academically well researched stuff still would be welcomed on ET, if this is a 'think tank'.
Wouldn't 'uninformed amateur' diaries then 'reduce the productivity' of the 'think tank'?


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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 08:08:17 PM EST
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I think that is what the distinction between the front page and dairy sections should be about.  The Diary section is for everyone to publish their thoughts - amateur or otherwise.  The front page should be for the more seriously researched and perhaps peer reviewed papers that are our platform for greater influence in the outside world.  That would also mean we need a separate page for the "social and personal" open threads and salons etc.  However the key thing about ET 2.0 should be that we must try to maintain the informal community look and feel open to active participation by all - whilst at the same time developing a more substantial presence to influence popular discourse.


"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 07:25:50 AM EST
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I'm not too keen to change ET as it is, even the frontpage. What Id like is to have an associated site which includes only the "finished" products - position papers, letters to editors, articles, etc...

I'd even be keen to keep that site separate from the ETwiki, which would the store of our "collective wisdom", ie a easy reference to our earlier discussions, ie a way to go through all our "unfinished" discussions.

I don't wnat to change the site so much as build on what exists, and put it in a form which is more accessible/palatable/understandable/interesting to outsiders who don't have the benefit of spending day in and day out over here.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 10:31:17 AM EST
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If you change the site you may break it.

Maybe it needs to be a separate project seeded with ETers, but not under the same "brand".

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 12th, 2008 at 03:03:33 AM EST
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Frank Schnittger:
I think that is what the distinction between the front page and dairy sections should be about.  The Diary section is for everyone to publish their thoughts - amateur or otherwise.  The front page should be for the more seriously researched and perhaps peer reviewed papers that are our platform for greater influence in the outside world.

So following that, much of Einstein's major work wouldn't have been worthy of the front page. but his later, less important work would ave?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 10:58:26 AM EST
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The front page should be for the more seriously researched and perhaps peer reviewed papers that are our platform for greater influence in the outside world

Then to the outside world we wouldn't look like a community blog at all any longer.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 03:17:51 PM EST
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and that would put off new members leading to a gradual decline in numbers and eventual collapse.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 10:29:25 PM EST
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Which probably means that spinoffs are a better way to "grow" or "develop".

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 11th, 2008 at 07:14:15 AM EST
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Many diaries end up on the front page once they have been "peer reviewed"

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sun May 11th, 2008 at 03:24:20 PM EST
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The organizational part is very good, but at the middle it veers off into a two class community, which would take away all the 'social and personal' value of any research.  Any intellectual effort that doesn't take the human side into account could hurt us all.

I'm afraid it would only create detached policy that would be more of the same. At least to me, the personal is political and viceversa, because it is intertwined.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 01:41:39 PM EST
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