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I don't think either boys or girls, young men or young women, dress to impress or attract each other.   Boys dress to impress other boys with their rebelliousness.  Girls dress to impress other girls with their fashion sense, and to a lesser (perhaps) extent, their rebelliousness against their mothers' fashion sense.   As with most non-uniform human attire, I think, the primary message is addressed to the peer group.

The boys with their trousers sliding off their hips (and exposing in some cases not just underwear!) are sort of saying "Fuck you" to society, a bit, but they're really saying to their peers, "Look!  I'm saying 'Fuck you' to society!  How cool am I?"   We who were boys in the 1960s thought we were being similarly rebellious (and cool) by wearing our trousers just perched on our hipbones, instead of belted near the navel like our fathers.  Parents and teachers of that day were scandalized!  Or at least, we thought they were.

by keikekaze on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:59:47 PM EST
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I have it on authority from inner city school teachers that the pants-down look originated as a gang thing, specifically, a signifier of having done prison time.  There are a variety of explanations: no belts in prison, erm, rape, and using the color of your boxers to signify your gang affiliation.  

But it became cool and everyone emmulated it.  

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:19:31 PM EST
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I was always amazed at the speed with which gang baseball cap signals (colour, position on head) spread as a meme around the world.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:22:36 PM EST
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Yep, thats it origin.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 04:38:42 PM EST
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i remember the first time i got on a tube (c.1964) with half a centimetre of hair over my top of my ears, and the looks of shock and awe from the little old grannies....the thrill was equally shocking to me.

later someone turned me on the french phrase 'epater les bourgeois', (turn the straights into paste, or noodles?!?), and i got that this was probably generational...

the fetishising of appearance at that age seems transcultural, as far as i can see.

i distinctly remember walking down ken high st at 14, making a mental checklist of all i was wearing, the shoes are cool, the carnaby st trousers cool, shirt not so much etc etc...

pathetic! total product of my environment...

just like the kids today...adolescence is temporary insanity, even in animals, it sure had its fun moments though!

The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 02:34:52 AM EST
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Indeed. But in grumpy old man mode, I could bemoan that rebelliousness against adult society pressure for uniform blandness was superseded by giving in to peer pressure for a youth tribe uniform, with not much adult pressure remaining to rebel against - and dressing in design labels (also see Naomi Klein: No Logo) is rather bland as rebelliousness goes.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 07:24:34 AM EST
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