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Some scary shit going on in Beirut today.  I suspect the TV networks are overhyping it a bit -- CNN and Al Jazeera keep calling it "heavy fighting," which may be an exaggeration given that at this point the death toll appears to be nil and the dozen or so reported casualties seem to be people who've been hit with rocks.  Trust me, if these guys wanted to kill each other, they'd be killing each other.  This is something else.  But it is still very deeply troubling that there are clearly rival groups of armed men shooting at each other with automatic weapons and RPGs.  

For those interested in following things, there's a blog aggregator here and I've found that this blog also has good up-to-date postings, even though I think the authors are both in Canada.

This news site is pretty pro-March 14 (that's the government), which you can probably see from headlines like "Hezbollah chief inspires renewed violence in Beirut."  But all English-language news sites that I know of are pretty pro-government.  Well, except for the English site of Al-Manar, Hezbollah's TV station.

The Daily Star is probably a good thing to check out tomorrow, but doesn't seem very up-to-date at the moment.

I've been unable to access Naharnet, the English site of An-Nahar, the newspaper most closely linked to March 14 (its former editor and publisher was Gebran Tueni, who was assassinated in 2005), but the Arabic site is still up, so I'm not sure what's going on there.

This blog by a journalist is also pretty good and a bit less pro-March 14, and the always cynical Angry Arab also has running updates, most of which are just his thoughts, but worth reading.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:07:09 PM EST
Also, some interesting posts on this blog, which is a Christian guy who I think is pro-government, but I haven't read him in a while.

Saad Hariri is on TV right now, appealing directly to Hassan Nasrallah to stop "dividing Muslims" and to "lift the siege on Beirut," and accusing him of essentially treating fellow Lebanese as if they were Israel, i.e. The Enemy.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:11:39 PM EST
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Gen. Aoun on TV now, saying "the responsibility lies with the government."

Jesus H. Christ.  There are people shooting RPGs in the streets, and these assholes are too busy blaming each other to stop it.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:35:30 PM EST
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Someone needs to tell the Al Jazeera English anchor how to pronounce Gen. Aoun's surname.  He keeps calling him "General Ai-yoon."
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:40:53 PM EST
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that's how they say it on BBC as well. How should it be said ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:55:15 PM EST
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Hmmm, that's interesting, BBC World usually gets it pretty close to right.

The name is really only one syllable, with a first sound that's very hard for English-speakers to pronounce, sort of an AAA in the back of your throat, and the change between that sound and the OON that follows is what makes some people give it two syllables.  So it's sort of exactly the way it looks:  AAOUN.  Or maybe AOWN.  Or AAOON.  But that first sound is hard to describe in writing.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:08:11 PM EST
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always remember BBC saying AH-oon

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:27:33 PM EST
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Probably the easiest way to approximate it is "crown" without the "cr."
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 02:13:15 PM EST
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A friend of mine says she has gunmen shooting in the alley below her apartment.  She can't tell which side they're on...
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 01:53:19 PM EST
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I hope this ends and your friends are ok.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:51:28 PM EST
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Thanks.  So do I.

I heard from another friend, who, um, knows a little something about what real fighting is like, and he says that although "thugs" have been shooting outside his apartment for five hours, he doesn't have any idea what they're shooting at, since (a) it's not a mixed neighborhood and (b) nobody's shooting back at them.

He says he's hearing occasional RPGs and even these.  Pretty heavy weaponry for what seems to be mostly just a bunch of guys showing off their new guns.

He also says it seems more amateurish than military, which makes it more dangerous.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 05:29:11 PM EST
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Reuters says at least eight dead now.  This is only getting worse.

The blogger who calls himself Charles Malik says Amal and Future Movement militias are controlling different sections of the neighborhood where I usually stay when I'm there.  (It's mostly a Sunni, Future Movement neighborhood, but there's a section near the corniche that for many years has been populated by supporters of Amal, one of the Shi'ite parties with a rather notorious reputation during the civil war.)

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 06:30:30 PM EST
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A YouTube video from Beirut of low-level urban combat.  Can anyone make-out what they are saying?

I guess the Revolution will be televised.

by ATinNM on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 07:45:08 PM EST
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Forgot to include: this is reported to be Mazraa Street, if that tells anyone anything.  
by ATinNM on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 07:47:09 PM EST
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Scary stuff.  Hopefully this ends soon.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 07:56:27 PM EST
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They were shooting down the street from the middle of the intersection without taking cover?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 02:51:04 AM EST
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Yes.  It doesn't make any sense.
by ATinNM on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 11:23:31 AM EST
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Funny, there isn't much in the news about Lebanon this morning.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 01:13:16 AM EST
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Maybe because nobody knows what's going on so they don't know how to spin it yet?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 02:48:45 AM EST
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