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Yet another example of how the Dems (and the left, and anyone not sharing the neolibs/neocons agenda) have been emasculated, and how the discourse on some topics is monolithic.

IOKIYAR is the flip side of this, of course.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 06:55:11 AM EST
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He can do what he likes when he's Pres, but right now he has to conform to media frames and if that means accepting that some represetative groups are painted as terrorist organisations then..so be it.

He is constrained by the idot discourse.

Once he's in, he will have more flexibility. Our problem here is that we doubt his progressive credentials and fear this  will be emblemetic of his Presidency. But I'd accept right now he couldn't even if he wanted to.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 08:07:40 AM EST
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I didn't see the big problem with it, honestly.  The press would, of course, play it as being part of the "Obama has trouble with Jews" meme, which is an extension of the Farrakhan thing.  But the polling shows him doing about the same as Clinton among Jewish voters, and the reason is that most Jewish voters in America are not fire-breathing, anti-Arab crusaders.

The guy was the head of an international crisis group, so he probably could've gotten away with it.  Plus, Carter gives him some cover, even though Carter gets treated like shit by the press.  (He's not a greatly loved ex-president, but he's universally respected as being one of the few people with a sense of decency to ever hold the office.)  But I say that knowing I'm probably a bit too bold on hitting back.

This is one point on which I'm not terribly concerned, because I think this is one issue on which we know where he's at.  I think the "secret liberal" tag applies on this one.

Still, it'd be nice to mount an assault on the idea that speaking with these groups is unacceptable.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 09:31:25 AM EST
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And, thinking of the "Obama No Can Haz teh Jewz" meme, even if he were having trouble, we still haven't played the Pastor Hagee card, which will not only neutralize the Wright card but could completely crush McCain in the heavily-Catholic Midwest.  Hagee, you see, referred to Catholicism as "The Great Whore" in one of his many amazing appearances.  That'd also damage McCain severely with Latinos, who already don't trust the Reps because of the xenophobic platform the GOP ran on in 2006.

The McCain campaign, I assure you, is scared shitless of that, and you can bet your bottom dollar Howard Dean's running an endless series of ads in front of the focus groups on it right now somewhere deep inside DNC Headquarters, trying to decide which one works best.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 09:50:47 AM EST
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