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"Modernising the tax structure".  I think Mr Hayward is right. Hear me out.

History tells us:


  • The dominant wood-fuel companies did not become significant coal suppliers.

  • The dominant coal suppliers did not become dominant in whale-oil supply.

  • The dominant whale-oil suppliers did not become the dominant rock oil (petroleum) suppliers.

And so on for other technological transitions: horse/ox/canal transport to rail, vacuum tube to transistor, transistor to integrated circuit, paper mail to email, fixed-line phones to mobile phones ... (Of course, the last two transitions have just started. But I don't want you to think that history all happened in the past. :-) )

The dominant companies in the 'sunset' technology nearly all failed, after lingering on for a few decades. A very few survived as shadows of their former selves. Very, very few ever went on to become significant players in the new technology, or in anything else. This despite massive efforts by some of these companies --firstly to increase production and lower costs in the old technology, and when this had no effect, to transition to the new one.

Conversely, almost none of the eventually-dominant players in the new technology started life in the old one.

The lessons from history are that 1) BP and its ilk will slowly fail, thrashing like dinosaurs trapped in a tar pit, and 2) their replacements will not come from the small fry in the fossil fuel industry.

The question is, what do we do in the mean time, while BP and company are failing? Do we subsidise them to spend ever-increasing sums of money futilely chasing ever-diminishing returns?

Or do we accept the reality of the transition, tax the sunset industry heavily to prevent this wasted "investment", and use the money to ease the pain of the transition for those most at risk - the very poor and the poor?

I vote for "modernising" the tax structure in this way.

by gregvp on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 at 08:20:37 PM EST
I've always like the image of the majors as dinosaurs thrashing madly as their world dies around them, and used it in speeches from the early 80's onward.  But i always extended it to major governmental efforts as well.  I agree that they will not be the next generation players, assuming a next generation.

My view has evolved, however.  I can give examples of major players who are committing at least partly to a renewable future.  We don't need to make a list, because most of these companies probably have ulterior motives.

AREVA comes to mind.  They've purchased a majority share of Multibrid, one of the stellar technologies on the offshore wind horizon.  (After they were forced to sell their stake in REpower wind, because of a far too aggressive takeover by Tulsi Tanti's cash rich and technology poor Suzlon.)  Since their major future business, do you agree J?, would likely be the provision of nuclear plants globally, what are the driving reasons for their investment in offshore wind?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 01:32:03 AM EST
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sells "carbon-free" energy. It makes a lot of sense to me, and thankfully to some smart people within that comapny.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 01:48:48 AM EST
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Not to mention it's a good branding strategy. No matter how small fraction wind is for Areva, the company can claim not to be a nuclear energy company but a "carbon-free" energy company. Using this sobriquet instead of renewable will in itself increase support for nuclear energy.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 03:13:34 AM EST
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That's exactly my point.  Windpower needs companies committed to significantly emphasizing the scale-up necessary to make it a major energy source globally.  Companies whose prime goal is development of their nuclear components are not the companies who will bring us a sustainable future.

Unless of course, one believes that nuclear power is a part of that mix, which i don't, but that isn't the topic here.

To be clear, i welcome AREVA into a highly risky portion of the windpower biz, with capital, expertise, contacts, and cheaper financing.  They have shown to be a very well-managed company, forward-thinking, and competent. But i see them as compromised when it comes to energy strategy.

With all that, given today's reality, i would place my own expertise in service of their windpower program.  When i built the first utility-scale project, my partner was the manufacturer of the UK's nuclear plant cooling systems.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 03:36:45 AM EST
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As we are talking about Areva, I just have to repost this great ad.



Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 04:20:55 AM EST
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Very sensible comment. Welcome to European Tribune, gregvp!

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 04:24:24 AM EST
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