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I agree.

There is only one way I can see the government being able to hold a "legitimate" second referendum. They could resign on the basis that the electorate have rejected there advocacy of Lisbon and hence that they can no longer presume to hold the electorate's confidence. They could then campaign during the general election on the basis of re-submitting the treaty. Presumably FF and FG would campaign on such a platform and also possibly Labour. It would be a gutsy move, with about zero percent probability of ever happening.

by det on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 05:13:34 PM EST
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You could be on to something here.  A general election on this issue would wrong foot both Fine Gael and Labour (as they also supported the Treaty) at the cost of providing a huge boost to Sinn Fein who would be the only real opposition party.  However it would allow Cowen to present himself as a man of principle and convistion and stamp his leadership on the party and give him a mandate in his won right.

He would have a lot of work to do in explaining to the electorate that this is his and our only best option.  I was speaking to a senior civil servant this evening and he is convinced that the "turkey's have just voted for Christmas" and destroyed Ireland's standing in the corridors of power in the EU.  He has been at the sharp end of a lot of EU negotiations, and so he should know.

However Cowen is a very cautious man and I can see him risking his premiership in such a dramatic move.  This one ios going to take some time to sort out.   Expect the media to finally do some digging into Ganly and co.

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 08:07:16 PM EST
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However Cowen is a very cautious man and I can see him risking his premiership in such a dramatic move.

Can? Can't?

This one ios going to take some time to sort out.   Expect the media to finally do some digging into Ganly and co.

Last night on the BBC, the "no" campaign was presented as consisting of LIBERTAS and LIBERTAS only. WIll he turn it into a political party?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 03:09:29 AM EST
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sorry, can't.

I think he would be very stupid to try and would be hammered.  The progressive Democrats are the most comparable pro business pro US party and they have dropped down to 2% of the vote.  He was given a free ride because he wasn't a politician.  That would change overnight if he turned it into a political party.  I hope he does - his true level of support would quickly become apparent.

The BBC must be trying to spin this as "Ireland comes around to Britain's Euroscepticism" because there is no way he remotely compares to Sinn Fein in terms of potential political support.

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 05:39:49 AM EST
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