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Do you think the average American had ever heard of Politkovskaya, Khodorkovsky, NTV, etc?  The fact did not stop them from covering those stories of people and media who had fallen victim to the nasty people in the Kremlin.

Maybe by "one of their own" he just mean "American."  Who knows...

Also, I think Russia's desire to be taken seriously is rooted in the way they were treated after the end of the cold war: like children.  You just called them neanderthals.  I understand you mean only the leaders, but I'm not sure Russia has the monopoly on idiot bureaucrats.  If you take the time to carefully read what is reported about Russia and the tone some other neanderthal leaders use when discussing Russia, which I am not asking you to do, one quickly discovers a pattern of stereotypes and patronizing language used to discredit Russia.  For crying out loud, how many times have I covered this?  If I had to break down all the western media coverage of Russia, I would say there is more use of connotation than actual glaringly obvious facts.  It's a valid complaint and one I happen to share, even if they are a bit obsessed about it.


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 04:40:14 PM EST
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Also, I think Russia's desire to be taken seriously is rooted in the way they were treated after the end of the cold war: like children.  You just called them neanderthals.

In my defense, I meant adult neanderthals. :)

You needn't convince me that they're treated like children in the WesternTM media, often for no reason.  I quite agree.  But then isn't shutting down a paper like the eXile because of its unseriousness (assuming that's the/a reason) a childish thing to do?  A serious government should be able to tolerate a free press and free expression, whether it's serious journalism or guys like me shouting obscenities over this or that.  The bureaucrats are only feeding propagandists on our side of the planet with crap like this.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 05:59:41 PM EST
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The bureaucrats are only feeding propagandists on our side of the planet with crap like this.

Which is why I called it a short-sighted move.

There are several theories floating about as to where the order to audit them (and let's be clear - they were audited, not closed down, but forced to close themselves as a result of investors bailing upon news of the audit) originated.  It's not necessarily an order from the top.  It may very well be the work of some over-eager underling thinking he's doing his bosses a favor.  Who knows?


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 at 06:06:49 PM EST
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Truth be said, the fact that they survived 11 years to now, is rather impressive. They might not be banned in western democracies (and they're not being so much banned as intimidated in Russia if I understand the situation correctly), but they'd be sued out of existence in many, in no time. Taibbi's (admittedly childish) Pope editorial in the NY Press, landed both him and the editor out of a job - and that was par for the eXile's standards. In fact the exile provided ample opportunities for all sorts of litigation. If I'm not mistaken, libel laws in quite a few western democracies would have shut them down much earlier.

And gangster action.

(Remember Saviano?)The eXile's articles on what seem like very scary people, always left me impressed with the fact that Ames was around to write a follow-up about them and didn't change residence every two days. Either the Russian Mob does not give a damn about the English language press, or they're very charitable about being mocked, or they didn't want to make much noise with Moscow's Americans. I don't know.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 07:01:26 AM EST
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I know.  They've gone after people much much scarier than Medvedev, the object of a recent article by Limonov.  Seriously, they were audited by the government and that is what scared them?  It's a miracle they weren't gunned down in broad daylight over the past 11 years!

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 12:45:52 PM EST
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Suing journalists to intimidate them and so pervert freedom of information happens here and now in our perfect-by-definition democracies.

Witness Denis Robert and the Clearstream affair :
http://www.ladominationdumonde.blogspot.com/

The Clearstream lawyers are suing the guy's ass whenever he opens his mouth, so he just quits.

by balbuz on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 04:03:59 PM EST
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Didn't you get the memo?  It is called Democracy when we do it, and Authoritarianism when everyone else does it.  

And let us not, please, no matter what, talk about the role Capitalism plays in Freedom of the Press.  Please, no one acknowledge the gigantic effing elephant in the room!  Repeat after me: "There is no connection between unchecked capitalism and censorship."  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 04:28:47 PM EST
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