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Whether the EU should stick to the 10% biofuels target.

If we admit that only 5% is practically achievable, a 10% target will necessitate a 50% reduction in fossil carbon.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 09:19:00 AM EST
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Which wasn't explicitly part of the question. And is a pretty scholastic kind of reasoning anyway, imo.

A lot of "plain folks" I spoke to a year or two ago assumed biofuels were going to fill in for oil and they would just go on driving around as before. Now they're aware of the land use problem. It's a step on the road to them seeing they should start choosing when to drive and when to refrain.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 09:28:45 AM EST
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We had an enthusiastic biofuel discussion here at ET quite some time ago before it became mainstream. Was it not you Afew who did some calculations that pointed out the problems ahead with land use?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 09:59:34 AM EST
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And that's my point about the Commission ignoring (our) reasoned input to the consultation and now resorting to a poll.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 10:16:00 AM EST
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At least the poll uses an open question and not the leading, loaded questions we complained about in the Energy Green Paper Consultation.

My point is it's worth answering NO even if the procedure isn't right.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 10:36:58 AM EST
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I was just being facetious. Or scholastic, if you prefer.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 10:54:00 AM EST
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Migeru Snark Technology ™
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 11:21:15 AM EST
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Hi, afew! I answered your e-mail.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 04:00:41 PM EST
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I started out here, and we wrote ET's contribution to the EC's Biofuels Consultation collectively. I updated the numbers recently here.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 at 10:23:27 AM EST
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